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Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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I configured about a dozen domains to have MX records for the mailinator disposable inbox service for about a decade for free as a gift and the domains were toxic for any other email use case for years afterwards… they were so abused you couldn’t even sign up for most web services with any email associated by the time I stopped renewing them… there are still GitHub lists of disposable email addresses that list to bla…

So assuming that I wanted a domain, which would be worthless on any mailing listing and pretty much any service, only good for regular emails, then letting them sit a mailinator aliases for a year or so is a good option? Sadly mailinator and similar services aren't really working anymore.

No - if you did that, you're likely to end up with an email address which many services will treat as suspicious or reject entirely, both for incoming and outbound mail. And you'll still get spam.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#192

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Understandable assumption if you haven't been paying attention to Apple and privacy, but incorrect: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/sign-in-with-app... >When you use Sign in with Apple on Safari, Apple sees when you sign in to a website so that Apple can authenticate your sign in, but Apple does not retain a history of what websites you sign in to or when you use Sign in with Apple.

I can lie too.

Tell me more! What evidence do you have that Apple is lying?

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#193
post #58

This is a huge selling point. Private email relays often get blocked, the only lasting solution is to put them on the same domain as, and in the same format as, a significant number of non-private email addresses. As far as I’m aware the only other provider doing this is Fastmail. Comments about lock-in aren’t wrong, but it has to be this way. You can make arbitrary email addresses at your own domain, but anybody who…

Fastmail is awesome. Happy customer for many years. Zero problems.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#194

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This past weekend, I finally have purchased my own domain and was contemplating using it for email. I had thought about a catch all, but was worried about bots. What is the best option? Do you create addresses such as: eyeball@customdomain.com (for the eye doctor) tooth@customdomain.com (for the dentist) bank@customdomain.com realfirstname@ reddit@ ... ... I would like the ability that if I am in a situation that som…

I use Migadu to host my email, and they have a really cool wildcard-style system where I can basically define a regex string, and any email address matching that string goes to my main email. In my case, I use a specific set of numbers just before the @ as the matching string (let’s say, “45”), so email to firstname45@domain works, or doctor45@domain, or library45@domain all get delivered. Since the spammers don’t kn…

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Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#195
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A reminder: Neither visa nor MasterCard networks have the ability to verify cardholder name. Everyone behaves as if they do, but your name cannot be verified. Which is to say, all of these cards have name anonymization, not just robinhood.

I was unaware of that, is address also unverifiable?

Yes, address is verifiable.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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Gmail filters are very good. But if someone with the same name as you starts using your e-mail address for everything because they don't understand or care about needing to see the e-mails they receive then there's very little you can do to stop it other than unsubbing from lists they sign up for (where possible). I've been getting someone else's e-mail traffic for about 5 years now, on two separate Gmail accounts, a…

why'd you get a Gmail with your personal name? isn't it kinda risky to give that out to every site and etc?

Got it years ago when Gmail was still in beta. My friend sent me an invite and yes I was actually excited to get invited to use the new 'Google Mail'. 1GB mailbox? Wow cool! How times change. The address is mostly dormant but still required for certain services/accounts so I can't just delete it. Probably better to squat it anyway, all things considered.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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01 Jul 2026 10:19:45 UTC | Apple 'Hide My Email' vulnerability reveals peoples' real email addresses | https://www.404media.co/apple-hide-my-email-vulnerability-re... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48744606

02 Jul 2026 03:47:04 UTC | Apple 'Hide My Email' Vulnerability Reveals Peoples' Real Email Addresses | https://www.404media.co/apple-hide-my-email-vulnerability-re... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48756295

03 Jul 2026 22:56:51 UTC | Apple 'Hide My Email' Vulnerability Reveals Peoples' Real Email Addresses | https://www.404media.co/apple-hide-my-email-vulnerability-re... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48780999

04 Jul 2026 17:01:39 UTC | Security Roundup: Apple's Hide My Email Service Fails to Hide Your Email | https://www.wired.com/story/security-roundup-apples-hide-my-... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48786928

04 Jul 2026 18:54:24 UTC | Apple Hide My Email Reveals the Users Real Email | https://www.404media.co/apple-hide-my-email-vulnerability-re... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48787842

05 Jul 2026 06:26:38 UTC | Security Roundup: Apple's Hide My Email Service Fails to Hide Your Email | https://www.wired.com/story/security-roundup-apples-hide-my-... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48791735

07 Jul 2026 02:16:06 UTC | Apple 'Hide My Email' Vulnerability Reveals Peoples' Real Email Addresses | https://www.404media.co/apple-hide-my-email-vulnerability-re... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48812946

12 Jul 2026 01:05:37 UTC | Apple Hide My Email bug, possibly related to disclosure vulnerability | https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2026/7/2.html | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48877353

Recommended reading:

19 Aug 2026 15:22:13 UTC | Alvarez vs. Apple, Inc. (N.D. Cal., July 15, 2026) [pdf] | https://ia803202.us.archive.org/25/items/gov.uscourts.cand.4... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49362811

21 Jul 2026 15:31:41 UTC | Apple Fixes Hide My Email Vulnerability After 404 Media Coverage | https://www.404media.co/apple-fixes-hide-my-email-vulnerabil... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48993637

23 Jul 2026 20:11:07 UTC | How Apple's Hide My Email exploit worked and why you're still at risk | https://easyoptouts.com/guides/apple-hide-my-email-was-leaki... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49027365

24 Aug 2026 20:24:44 UTC | Apple Won't Change Hide My Email Domain After Backlash | https://www.macrumors.com/2026/08/24/apple-hide-my-email-dom... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49425379

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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I was unaware of that, is address also unverifiable?

Yes, address is verifiable.

According to wikipedia, AVS only verifies the numeric portion of an address.

But I haven't tried this, so ymmv.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_verification_service#:...

Vendors like Stripe may do more than Visa/MC though.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#200
Don't mix use cases. Privacy is different from uniquely identifying senders.

The reason for random email addresses is YOU finally can identify each vendor uniquely by the email they send you stuff.

It isn't about anonymizing, it's about identifying them.

I've been doing it for 30+ years on my own domains.

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