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Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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It was not long ago all the illustrations in an M chip press release were graphs showing it flouncing the competition. Now it's just random screenshots of desktops. Skimming this I didn't see a single claim of performance advantages over competitors. The massive thing Apple still needs to solve is making sure customers don't miss being able to plug the latest greatest GPU into their tower, they should not be resting on their laurels.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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Due to pricing insanity (not that Apple prices weren’t insane before the ram/ssd shortages) I’m not in the market but I do wonder if my next computer should be a Mac Studio instead of a MBP that lives its life docked. Might be better to just run a Studio and Neo for the very few times I actually need remote capabilities.

YMMV, but when I got my iPad I realized that my "mobile" needs were only contempt consumption and my MBP was used as a desktop computer connected to a 32'' monitor. So every time I renewed my laptop the expensive screen went with it, and I had to pay for another one that I would be using as a second screen! Thus, my current workhorse is a Studio.

> I realized that my "mobile" needs were only contempt consumption

Is that the new phrase for social media? I hope it is...

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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Is there an option to "use the remote computer just as it was local" even between two Macs? Sure, terminal/ssh is enough for most use-cases, but this is something I expected from Apple as builtin. I can tailscale into my home network, but what next? VNC/TeamViewer/Remote Desktop setups are all mediocre imho.

Apple Remote Desktop is very usable. I have a headless mini and have managed to fool myself about which machine I’m on, over WiFi.

What are you using to connect to the headless mini to use as a primary?

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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YMMV, but when I got my iPad I realized that my "mobile" needs were only contempt consumption and my MBP was used as a desktop computer connected to a 32'' monitor. So every time I renewed my laptop the expensive screen went with it, and I had to pay for another one that I would be using as a second screen! Thus, my current workhorse is a Studio.

> I realized that my "mobile" needs were only contempt consumption Is that the new phrase for social media? I hope it is...

My contempt consumption is reading feeds, books and sheet music, and some casual games...

... and a lot more social media I'd like to admit.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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YMMV, but when I got my iPad I realized that my "mobile" needs were only contempt consumption and my MBP was used as a desktop computer connected to a 32'' monitor. So every time I renewed my laptop the expensive screen went with it, and I had to pay for another one that I would be using as a second screen! Thus, my current workhorse is a Studio.

I almost bought a studio a couple years ago, but I was starting a PhD and so I figured I had to prioritize MBP. These prices make that decision so bittersweet. I feel so shut out from being able to use AI as economic productivity without being able to take on debt for a local-inf capable mac studio

Last year I was able to justify a 128GB/1TB M4 Max Studio for 4600€. This cycle's M5 Max with 128GB/1TB goes for 6219€. The M5 has to be obviously a better machine, but it's now above the price point I would pull the trigger for. Guess I got lucky in the futureproofing lottery this time, anyway.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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Except for LLM inference speed, macs suck as a server and are pretty expensive, why wouldn't you get a Linux box?

My Mac mini m1 is a fantastic home server. Years ago I realized running a 100W PC all the time was REALLY expensive, so I switched to an old linux laptop at 30W (about $4/month). That helped, but I moved to the m1 mac specifically for the power efficiency. It does all the things my linux server did, and it does them at 6W (75¢/month). I've found no competitor with similar performance that can run in such a low power…

My home server is an ASUS NUC 14 Essential which idles at 5W with a bunch of services running. Its peak performance is probably less than the Mac Mini, but the hardware is cheap (at least it was before RAM/storage got expensive) and it’s a great platform to run Linux on.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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Opus is probably ~2T parameter model, so that would probably not run on these. More like Sonnet.

The 512GB could run GLM 5.3 which is Opus level

GLM 5.2 in NVFP4 is 465 GB. It would be a tough fit.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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post #375

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My Mac mini m1 is a fantastic home server. Years ago I realized running a 100W PC all the time was REALLY expensive, so I switched to an old linux laptop at 30W (about $4/month). That helped, but I moved to the m1 mac specifically for the power efficiency. It does all the things my linux server did, and it does them at 6W (75¢/month). I've found no competitor with similar performance that can run in such a low power…

My home server is an ASUS NUC 14 Essential which idles at 5W with a bunch of services running. Its peak performance is probably less than the Mac Mini, but the hardware is cheap (at least it was before RAM/storage got expensive) and it’s a great platform to run Linux on.

NUC is good too. Having x86 is surprisingly important in Linux.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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Yeah, I agree (with the same unfortunate habit) – but up to twice a day of forced work full stop is overdoing it, too.

Is there no hibernation option ?

You don't get the option in the UI: there's just "Sleep", which on a desktop Mac seems to suspend to RAM only. At least, it seems to on mine, as I found out when I unplugged it.

(Apparently the laptops do a suspend to disk depending on battery remaining, so the OS does support it. It'd be nice to have it available! The disk space required could become annoying if you only bought the 1 TB SSD for your fancy 512 GB Mac though.)

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