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Re: OpenAI Jalapeño: Better than Nvidia Blackwell

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I love how now you have to consider the possible s** posting motivation behind analysis of a trillion dollar industry being conducted at a world-class level by a bunch of ex Reddit and 4Chan adjacent mods -- it's one of the best stories in AI that SemiAnalysis is not cut from the same cloth as Gartner McKinsey et al

s** posting? sex posting?

Re: OpenAI Jalapeño: Better than Nvidia Blackwell

#22
post #12

Continued hardware improvements really make it hard for me to believe token prices will not continue to plummet.

Hopefully this also means billionaires can stop trying to drop data centers into residential neighborhoods with zero noise control and polluting on-site generators, signing local politicians on with NDAs, calling for eminent domain to seize homes to build power lines to data centers, etc. etc. etc. Not to mention the water use controversy. Token prices plummeting is probably a good thing, but not without the regulato…

Nah, Jevon’s Paradox says that cheaper tokens will mean increased overall energy consumption.

If we can’t even build data centers, the least disruptive industrial use possible, there’s no hope to reindustrialize the US or anywhere outside of China.

Re: OpenAI Jalapeño: Better than Nvidia Blackwell

#23

I love how now you have to consider the possible s** posting motivation behind analysis of a trillion dollar industry being conducted at a world-class level by a bunch of ex Reddit and 4Chan adjacent mods -- it's one of the best stories in AI that SemiAnalysis is not cut from the same cloth as Gartner McKinsey et al

> I love how now you have to consider the possible s*** posting motivation behind analysis of a trillion dollar industry being conducted at a world-class level by a bunch of ex Reddit and 4Chan adjacent mods

I mean, previously you could have said something much the same except substitute "frat boys".

Re: OpenAI Jalapeño: Better than Nvidia Blackwell

#24

When people talk about the commodification of inferencing, they imagine a future where everyone has access to frontier models and can run them at the same cost, and what will actually happen is closer to the commodification of _oil_, where only a few companies have the scale to produce it at a competitive price, and advances like this are _why_. Once models are more or less interchangeable, the price of LLMs will dro…

I don't believe models will be commodified because each model is unique with strengths and weaknesses. Its not like Steel which is more or less the same no matter where you purchase it from.

If what you said were true, you would hardly see people complaining about the quality of Opus 5 or good writing from Sol. But people do.

Re: OpenAI Jalapeño: Better than Nvidia Blackwell

#25
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Building a custom-designed ASIC is much easier than producing state of the art memory chips. There's a reason why Micron and Nvidia are the crown jewels of American technology right now and for the foreseeable future.

NVIDIA produces memory?

A state of the art GPU is much harder to design & produce at scale and than an internal ASIC.

Re: OpenAI Jalapeño: Better than Nvidia Blackwell

#26

Continued hardware improvements really make it hard for me to believe token prices will not continue to plummet.

this is a story about a proprietary accelerator being built/designed by a token provider. and you think they're going to return the efficiency gains to the customer instead of capture the value for themselves? interesting take.

Yes, I can bet on this happening. If anything, this is a net gain for consumers as it is a competitive market.

Re: OpenAI Jalapeño: Better than Nvidia Blackwell

#27

Continued hardware improvements really make it hard for me to believe token prices will not continue to plummet.

this is a story about a proprietary accelerator being built/designed by a token provider. and you think they're going to return the efficiency gains to the customer instead of capture the value for themselves? interesting take.

We should be mindful of the context that many of these providers VERY likely have been selling their subscriptions at a substantial loss

So as much as i agree “more profits to stakeholders screw the customer”, i think its more of an emergency to get to profitability before the music stops.

Re: OpenAI Jalapeño: Better than Nvidia Blackwell

#30
Well Sam Altman finally has built a moat against Chinese open weight AI. Well done. But what will this mean for Cerebras?

I remember when Tesla was building its own inference chips, and after about 2 years and billions spent, the whole effort was scuttled b/c they simply could not keep up with the iteration and R&D cycles of dedicated chip companies. I suspect the same will be the case with OpenAI vs Cerebras + Nvidia/Groq

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