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Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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I'm so sick of "up to 2x faster" ...THAN WHAT? ON WHAT WORKLOAD? How can I reproduce these claims? I really miss when vendors would run the SPEC benchmark suite and performance was quantitative, and not qualitative.

… from the fine print:

“Results are compared to previous-generation Mac mini systems with Apple M4, 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 32GB of unified memory, and 2TB SSD.”

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

#122

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So, government regulation will lead to all bad things we see today in capitalism? But capitalism won't. This is not very sound logic.

Theory holds so far. Everything government involvement touches gets more expensive. See healthcare, college tuition, student loan debt as some easy examples.

That’s odd because spend on all of those things per capita is consistently lower with better outcomes where they’re socialized.

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

#124

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So, government regulation will lead to all bad things we see today in capitalism? But capitalism won't. This is not very sound logic.

Theory holds so far. Everything government involvement touches gets more expensive. See healthcare, college tuition, student loan debt as some easy examples.

Two of those are the same thing and both are much cheaper in countries other than the US where the government is much more involved

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

#125
post #49

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Same thing for me! Got it with the education discount when it came out in 2024 and, although I've been pretty disappointed with macOS, it's crazy to see that the price increased by $300 in less than 2 years, with no sign of the price increases slowing down. What will happen once people are priced out of buying computers? I find this worrying.

> What will happen once people are priced out of buying computers? I find this worrying. I’m sure some kind capitalist will be happy to rent them a thin client linked to a computer in the cloud.

I’m sure some kind capitalist will be happy to rent them a thin client linked to a computer in the cloud.

Maybe we'll see a return to the late 1990's, when companies would give you a free computer as long as you allowed it to constantly display an ad banner on the top of the screen.

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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post #51

After watching a video about how the filesystems are > 2x faster (and testing this myself in my mac mini vs a linux machine), I feel like Apple is leaving a lot on the table, and I hope that they get APFS to be as fast as the linux filesystems. Because otherwise a lot of this hardware (including their blazing fast SSDs) is wasted. Cuz my M1 mac mini is awesome otherwise.

I took a peek into APFS a bit ago [1] because I (stupidly) yanked a usb SSD before it was unmounted and corrupted it. Reading the documentation, it seems to have many "cool" features which just aren't fully exposed/utilized in the OS, and there is a lack of API tooling. For example: it is copy-on-write, and my corruption happened in the superblock checkpoint. There is no built-in command in Disk Utility to "mount" an…

Claude was super helpful at walking me through the APFS CLI tool to do some more advanced stuff that’s not in the GUI.

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

#127
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same thing for me! Got it with the education discount when it came out in 2024 and, although I've been pretty disappointed with macOS, it's crazy to see that the price increased by $300 in less than 2 years, with no sign of the price increases slowing down. What will happen once people are priced out of buying computers? I find this worrying.

Maybe they will have to use/repair/upgrade the ones they already own?

Problem with that is so few of them are repairable these days. Laptops just kind of fall apart over time.

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

#129
post #77

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Afaik most openclaw users aren’t running their llm locally - just using a mac mini as an always-on sandbox for agents.

Cool, like a $5 VPS?

A $5 VPS is easy to block. It's way harder to block a stock mac mini from a residential IP address

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

#130

I'm so sick of "up to 2x faster" ...THAN WHAT? ON WHAT WORKLOAD? How can I reproduce these claims? I really miss when vendors would run the SPEC benchmark suite and performance was quantitative, and not qualitative.

… from the fine print: “Results are compared to previous-generation Mac mini systems with Apple M4, 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 32GB of unified memory, and 2TB SSD.”

Running what workload? How can I reproduce it?
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