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MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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I have some better options. Stop using computers, or if you use a computer, use Linux. Everything is spying on us now. Literally everything. I recently downgraded my MacBook M1 to Sonoma to avoid all this AI privacy invading BS.

Some people are suggesting systemd is spying on you because of /etc/machine-id

Don't use it then, there's at least three other init systems...

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Injecting hidden GUIDs into local files without explicit user consent is a massive privacy overreach. It makes you wonder what other local tools are silently tagging user generated content.

Haven’t printers done the same thing for decades?

Also why color laser printers refuse to print b/w documents when they run out of color toner since they can no longer print the yellow DocuColor tracking dots.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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You should however not accept this state of affairs even if you exclusively use open source software because the next step is that it become illegal to have photo editing software that doesn't include the tracking information needed to protect the children, fight terrorists or whatever the boogeyman of the day is.

It's already illegal to not watermark an AI image.

Oh I didn't know I was going to break the law today just using automatic1111 stable diffusion. I'll call my lawyer.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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While it does make a difference, their willingness to quietly integrate watermarking features into what people saw as simple apps for doing simple tasks is unnerving. It only takes a small change for them to start baking your identifiable information into all images they edit, or some government politely asking them to do that. I wonder if in ten years we'll have a horrifying world where everything that leaves a mach…

Imagine the horrifying world where nothing is - and a so-called AI is thereby free to impersonate anyone.

We already live in that world, and the sky hasn't fallen so far. Even in the worst case scenario, the world isn't going to be as horrifying as the alternative, because people react to the proliferation of scams, they will not keep falling for fake impersonation for the 10000th time a row. In this scenario, we simply will stop taking factual-looking images at their word in the same way how you don't take any piece of writing on the internet as factual, verifiable truth. Journalism will rely on a person vouching for their images with their reputation, and images with unknown sources will be looked at with suspicion.

I am not willing to pay the price of sending every bit I create to some megacorporation's server or stamp it with my only identity so the computer can tell me what's AI and what isn't. Especially not while the average quality settles into an uncanny valley that's often discernible with the naked eye, both for text and images.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

#436
Scanning the comments, I see some curiosity and outrage but little recognition that this is legally required in places like California and Colorado and Texas and probably some more places.

And federally, the C2PA strongly encourages digital providence albeit without legal consequences... yet.

All AI content coming from companies that service the US market are watermarking things.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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They also added a settings menu where you can go and turn all of the things you don't like off, including that.

Then they should've left those things off by default, rather than messing with the expected flow of the application for everyone.

Yes, all UX improvements should be disabled by default so only the users who dig through every settings menu benefit from them. /s

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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post #184

Ya know, this would probably be pointless but if I were a programmer (I'm not -and refuse to be a vibe coder) I'd probably just grab appropriate libraries and make my own replacements for this shit. GLTK+ (?) is an obvious choice to use for recreating mspaint, and to replace notepad -I was told making a simple editor was an excercise they have you do when you learn programming to begin with? I already replaced the 's…

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Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Keep an eye on this. A few months back, MS incorrectly tried to stamp a Copilot "watermark" (just an auto-added note) to any and all Azure DevOps commits, regardless of whether an LLM was actually involved. They removed it after a lot of github issues were submitted to the source of the issue which was a VS Code Copilot extension. MS has been very sloppy in their implementations. I would recommend against using Paint…

I would avoid junk from Microsoft entirely.
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