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Idk I think it's kind of neat
Personally, I'd take "beautiful" over "kind of neat" any day
I like having both :)
Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)
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Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)
#232Literally the best possible kind of psy-op. Same with translating Sesame Street and distributing it to 100s of countries. Same with countries like Thailand exporting Thai food. It's a psy op based on what if we took nice things from our country and subsidized distributing them to the rest of the world, our country would grow in prestige and soft power. And these strategies are usually pretty effective, not to mention…
The only reason the CIA did it in secret is that congress _hated_ modern art and killed State Department projects supporting it. The soviets and every other government also promoted their own artists abroad extensively. Not everything the CIA did was a psy-op, sometimes it was a convenient way for the executive branch to do something that congress didn't want to pay for.
Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)
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This is a rich thing to say about the term "Modern", which is basically baked in with an expiration date.
Modern C++ means C++ from 2011 btw
Actually some say “modern C++” dates to 19th century Europe. Ada Lovelace provided some of the earliest examples of undefined behavior that C++ programmers still love talking about to this day.
Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)
#234Literally the best possible kind of psy-op. Same with translating Sesame Street and distributing it to 100s of countries. Same with countries like Thailand exporting Thai food. It's a psy op based on what if we took nice things from our country and subsidized distributing them to the rest of the world, our country would grow in prestige and soft power. And these strategies are usually pretty effective, not to mention…
Modern art sucks, and displaced art that is beautiful. Huge net loss for humanity.
dude take one single art history class... (well, maybe 2 since the first one is going to give you the venus of willendorf and ionic/doric columns...) this is nonsense.
Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)
#235Art and cultural movements are a favorite vehicle for any country to serve its intelligence interests. An example is Goethe-Institut
Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Modern art sucks, and displaced art that is beautiful. Huge net loss for humanity.
"… displaced art that is beautiful." Photography did that. I didn't used to like pop-art, op-art, etc. I do now. I suspect most things new take a while to sink in.
Modern art is older than me.
Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)
#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
Modern art sucks, and displaced art that is beautiful. Huge net loss for humanity.
dude take one single art history class... (well, maybe 2 since the first one is going to give you the venus of willendorf and ionic/doric columns...) this is nonsense.
If you need a class to tell you what’s enjoyable to look at and what isn’t, then it’s not a class it’s brainwashing to suppress your natural instincts.
Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)
#238What you observe, elevate, worship is the same thing.
The modern culture want you to worship individuality, expression, pleasure, etc.
The result is the destruction of society, of the building blocks, what remain is atomic individuals and a central power structure that always control more and centralise.
Our roots was to worship Christ (self sacrifice for love and truth) with that sweept aside, we worship pleasure, ourselves, the intellect, etc. We are much easier to control than stuborn truth believer that are ready to die for it.
Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)
#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you actually read the article? It lays out a pretty compelling case that the CIA established funding sources and magazines to popularize American modern art and make it a worldwide phenomenon / a cultural export to have Americans be taken seriously as taste makers.
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Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)
#240Not the first time when the Default Country thinks they invented everything. The title is almost comical. Modern art, as everyone should know, started in 1860s in Europe inspired by technological advances, globalization of trade and cultural exchange. Japanese art made huge blast, photography pushed to seek new forms of expression, social progress demanded new messages and new images. We had impressionism, post-impre…
"the Default Country" is a good one. I'll have to start using that.
Especially from someone whose "modern art" means mid-19th centuary European art under an article that starts with "In the mid-twentieth century".