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Bomb fishing is wreaking havoc on Indonesia's coral reefs

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Re: Bomb fishing is wreaking havoc on Indonesia's coral reefs

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post #5

"With a bomb dropped once every 62 minutes, the equivalent of three football fields of reef are destroyed each year, according to Williams." That doesn't sound right.

You’d be surprised how vulnerable aquatic organisms are, and how far energy travels in water after an explosion…

I would assume the area was larger than reported. I mean that's 24*365 bombs per year.

Re: Bomb fishing is wreaking havoc on Indonesia's coral reefs

#22
post #5

"With a bomb dropped once every 62 minutes, the equivalent of three football fields of reef are destroyed each year, according to Williams." That doesn't sound right.

You’d be surprised how vulnerable aquatic organisms are, and how far energy travels in water after an explosion…

I think the point is the opposite, I also expected a lot more damage from a bomb every hour

Re: Bomb fishing is wreaking havoc on Indonesia's coral reefs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that the selfishness of the farmer or fisherman may in certain light differ from the greed of the capitalist, if one’s family endurance depends on it.

Those are nothing but excuses. Destroying habitats and the future of fellow fishermen for short-term gain is just selfishness and greed. Desperation is no excuse.

Say that again when your children are starving.

Re: Bomb fishing is wreaking havoc on Indonesia's coral reefs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that the selfishness of the farmer or fisherman may in certain light differ from the greed of the capitalist, if one’s family endurance depends on it.

Those are nothing but excuses. Destroying habitats and the future of fellow fishermen for short-term gain is just selfishness and greed. Desperation is no excuse.

Easy to say when it’s not your child facing starvation. The long term doesn’t matter if your family isn’t going to make it another month.

Re: Bomb fishing is wreaking havoc on Indonesia's coral reefs

#25
post #11

Send them some subsidies from those large American coffers then, and they won't need to

blunt comment but not technically wrong - it's likely poverty and subsistence living that's driving adoption of this 'technique' and much of that originates from a combination of the colonial carve up of Indonesia [0] in combination with the weak and easily exploited position of the country within globalized economic markets [1] [0] https://law.wm.edu/academics/intellectuallife/researchcenter... >Centuries of Dutch c…

> it's likely poverty and subsistence living that's driving adoption of this 'technique'

From the article:

> While understudied, the incentives for the use of dangerous dynamite fishing are often falsely attributed solely to poverty and desperation.

> The cost barrier to buying boats, bombs, and detonators means it’s more likely a practice for middle-income fishers, according to experts.

Re: Bomb fishing is wreaking havoc on Indonesia's coral reefs

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Note that the selfishness of the farmer or fisherman may in certain light differ from the greed of the capitalist, if one’s family endurance depends on it.

If you read the article it’s pretty clear this is greed and short sighted thinking

> While understudied, the incentives for the use of dangerous dynamite fishing are often falsely attributed solely to poverty and desperation. The cost barrier to buying boats, bombs, and detonators means it’s more likely a practice for middle-income fishers, according to experts.

“A combination of factors drives blast fishing, including ineffective enforcement and management,” said Hampton-Smith, highlighting how indiscriminate the explosions are, killing all manner of species, regardless of age, size, or intent.

Re: Bomb fishing is wreaking havoc on Indonesia's coral reefs

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

blunt comment but not technically wrong - it's likely poverty and subsistence living that's driving adoption of this 'technique' and much of that originates from a combination of the colonial carve up of Indonesia [0] in combination with the weak and easily exploited position of the country within globalized economic markets [1] [0] https://law.wm.edu/academics/intellectuallife/researchcenter... >Centuries of Dutch c…

That's addressed in the article? The claim made is that this is more a way of middle-income market-trading fishermen increasing their catch and profit. Those at the bottom can't afford the necessary explosives.

that's an uncited claim framed as a guess, not confirmation or even a more educated guess by people performing actual ethnographies and larger demographic analysis. pair it against both the fact that these bombs are easy to make (plastic bottle + explosive) and the stronger kinship ties of families and villages, it's not impossible to imagine groups pooling money to purchase fertilizer on the gray market

you'd have to imagine that higher earners would easily be able to navigate out to deeper waters with better boats whereas lower income would stay in shallower waters which is noted as largely where this is happening

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