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Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Post by owebmaster »

spwa4 wrote: post #24
cyanydeez wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The moral difference here is, of course, that one side has institutionalized child-rape for religious reasons and has imams play pimps for thousands of children forced into prostitution to get raped. The other side has a bunch of criminals that sometimes succeed in rape and the most famous of whom is now dead rather than confess. Both are bad. One is a disgusting large-scale moral failing in the religion they follow…

> The other side has a bunch of criminals that sometimes succeed in rape and the most famous of whom is now dead rather than confess

Isn't the best friend of the dead one the most famous now?

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Post by cindyllm »

newspaper1 wrote: post #15
applicative wrote: post #13

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These are all things Ukraine does, "bombing civilian infrastructure, killing innocent civilians, and taking actions that were inevitably going to lead Iran[Russia] to respond with the goal of inflicting widespread economic damage". It is extremely tiresome to hear such a litany without a wider analysis. In its mad program to retain control of ... Syria, of all places ... Iran killed and incinerated and dissolved in a…

Iran, like the Ukraine was attacked first. That being said Iran is waging a more moral war than Ukraine in my opinion.

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Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Post by tim333 »

newspaper1 wrote: post #9

Iran has nothing on Israel when it comes to interfering with other nations. This is simply propaganda and missing the elephant in the room (on purpose of course).

I've never heard of Israel trying to kill overseas critics? As opposed to terrorists who try to kill Israelies.

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Post by SHAKEDECADE »

tim333 wrote: post #33
newspaper1 wrote: post #9

Iran has nothing on Israel when it comes to interfering with other nations. This is simply propaganda and missing the elephant in the room (on purpose of course).

I've never heard of Israel trying to kill overseas critics? As opposed to terrorists who try to kill Israelies.

I've never heard of Israel trying to kill overseas critics?..

Could it be because they're really good at it?

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Post by red-iron-pine »

tim333 wrote: post #33
newspaper1 wrote: post #9

Iran has nothing on Israel when it comes to interfering with other nations. This is simply propaganda and missing the elephant in the room (on purpose of course).

I've never heard of Israel trying to kill overseas critics? As opposed to terrorists who try to kill Israelies.

lord knows they sure kill or kidnap people overseas tho

but i'll concede some of them were literally nazis

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Post by cyanydeez »

spwa4 wrote: post #24
cyanydeez wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The moral difference here is, of course, that one side has institutionalized child-rape for religious reasons and has imams play pimps for thousands of children forced into prostitution to get raped. The other side has a bunch of criminals that sometimes succeed in rape and the most famous of whom is now dead rather than confess. Both are bad. One is a disgusting large-scale moral failing in the religion they follow…

Is it better if the rules are written in ink or money?

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Post by newspaper1 »

tim333 wrote: post #33
newspaper1 wrote: post #9

Iran has nothing on Israel when it comes to interfering with other nations. This is simply propaganda and missing the elephant in the room (on purpose of course).

I've never heard of Israel trying to kill overseas critics? As opposed to terrorists who try to kill Israelies.

They kill journalists (not even critics) all the time. They've murdered people in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yemen...

I'm sure they've killed plenty of people in the US and elsewhere as well. Epstein was an Israeli op after all.

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Post by applicative »

newspaper1 wrote: post #17
applicative wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> It stood up for Palestinians by what? Iran is the only country that has retaliated against Israel. They literally bombed Tel Aviv and multiple other targets in Israel. They also support Hezbollah (also fighting Zionism and defending Palestinians). > Annexing Lebanon? The only people annexing Lebanon are the Zionists.

> The only people annexing Lebanon are the Zionists.

wtf is a zionist and when did they annex lebanon? The Assads actually presupposed annexation of Lebanon, or just denied the partition, during their occupations. Their opinion about Palestine was the same: its' the Levant, it's Syria, its capital is Damascus; there is no distinct Palestinian or Lebanese people we are all Syrian Arabs, Levantine Arabs. (The theory has a lot to be said for it of course but isnt what happened alas) Bashar, that great critic of 'zionism', whatever tf that noise means, only admitted Lebanon was real not long before he finally conceded Palestine was real, 2008 & 11 . Khamenei-Soleimani began mechanized slaughter of Syrian children a few weeks after Palestine was recognized, as the uprising developed and the recalcitrant Arabs had to be euthanized en masse. It was part of the geopolitical procedure. Palestine was as usual the pretext for gassing everyone.

if the jews hadn't existed it would have been necessary for khamenei to invent them.

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Post by newspaper1 »

applicative wrote: post #38
newspaper1 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It stood up for Palestinians by what? Iran is the only country that has retaliated against Israel. They literally bombed Tel Aviv and multiple other targets in Israel. They also support Hezbollah (also fighting Zionism and defending Palestinians). > Annexing Lebanon? The only people annexing Lebanon are the Zionists.

> The only people annexing Lebanon are the Zionists. wtf is a zionist and when did they annex lebanon? The Assads actually presupposed annexation of Lebanon, or just denied the partition, during their occupations. Their opinion about Palestine was the same: its' the Levant, it's Syria, its capital is Damascus; there is no distinct Palestinian or Lebanese people we are all Syrian Arabs, Levantine Arabs. (The theory ha…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_Southern...

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Post by Sabinus »

King-Aaron wrote: post #19

The Israeli government has openly and publicly stated they will spread false information and propaganda directly through social media etc, which they heavily control all throughout the west, and have directly threatened western politicians that don't support their (often false) rhetoric, along with themselves conducting terrorist activities outside their own borders. I'm frankly quite tired of hearing about how terri…

How are the Israeli and US governments a threat to the entire planet and (arguably) worse than a authoritarian fundamentalist religious regime? If Iran gets a nuke are they more or less likely to use it than the Israelis?

Does Israel heavily control social media throughout the West?

Multiple foreign governments are ruining influence operations. We should be talking about the effects that has on our public sphere, and the existence of Israeli influence operations doesn't mean we handwave away Iranian influence.

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