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iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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Post by jdoe1337halo »

kqp wrote: post #58

This is a huge selling point. Private email relays often get blocked, the only lasting solution is to put them on the same domain as, and in the same format as, a significant number of non-private email addresses. As far as I’m aware the only other provider doing this is Fastmail. Comments about lock-in aren’t wrong, but it has to be this way. You can make arbitrary email addresses at your own domain, but anybody who…

Yep I have a few @firefox.com addresses from the inital launch of Firefox Relay. Come in handy for some of the more stubborn sites that block private addresses.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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Post by radlad »

cube00 wrote: post #156
windowliker wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gmail filters are very good. But if someone with the same name as you starts using your e-mail address for everything because they don't understand or care about needing to see the e-mails they receive then there's very little you can do to stop it other than unsubbing from lists they sign up for (where possible). I've been getting someone else's e-mail traffic for about 5 years now, on two separate Gmail accounts, a…

> very little you can do to stop it other than unsubbing from lists they sign up for (where possible) It certainly felt that way when someone was giving my GMail out to the cashier at the hardware store where I got no end of digital receipts which I couldn't unsubscribe from because they're providing the email address to the cashier each time. As they were receipts from a large verified brand Google treated them with…

You can create a custom filter for this kind of thing, fwiw.

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Post by _zoltan_ »

DarmokTanagra wrote: post #171
_zoltan_ wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

single use card tied to you, or via some privacy frontend? if the latter, care to share your experience?

many cards offer virtual card numbers, robinhood card offers name anonymization. been a user for a couple years now and no complaints

robinhood is not available here in Switzerland unfortunately.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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Post by happyopossum »

inigyou wrote: post #178
Schiendelman wrote: post #134

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It's not free - you're agreeing for them to track and advertise to your customers. Apple does not do that with your Apple login data.

Huh? Of course Apple does that, and charges you for the privilege as well.

Understandable assumption if you haven't been paying attention to Apple and privacy, but incorrect:

https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/sign-in-with-app...

>When you use Sign in with Apple on Safari, Apple sees when you sign in to a website so that Apple can authenticate your sign in, but Apple does not retain a history of what websites you sign in to or when you use Sign in with Apple.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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Post by fugigigjfn »

khalic wrote: post #129
Jleagle wrote: post #122

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You say nothing is free, but Amazon, Discord, Dropbox, Facebook, GitHub, Google, Instagram, Microsoft, Paypal, Reddit, Slack, Steam, TikTok, Twitter etc all offer it for free. Plus, it's not for the dev, it's for the users of the website.

And they all sell your data

It’s so tiring to hear people repeat this automatically without even thinking. It’s true in thumb cases, but in many other cases, the data is more valuable to them to keep private or use for other purposes, or it’s value when the sold is not enough to warrant inclusion in the privacy policies.

You’re adding nothing to the discussion and you should delete your comment

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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Post by rsync »

DarmokTanagra wrote: post #171
_zoltan_ wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

single use card tied to you, or via some privacy frontend? if the latter, care to share your experience?

many cards offer virtual card numbers, robinhood card offers name anonymization. been a user for a couple years now and no complaints

A reminder:

Neither visa nor MasterCard networks have the ability to verify cardholder name.

Everyone behaves as if they do, but your name cannot be verified.

Which is to say, all of these cards have name anonymization, not just robinhood.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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Post by osiriskang »

windowliker wrote: post #154
serbuvlad wrote: post #104

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I find this very interesting in 2026. I use my gmail address for everything and I don't really get spam (except from services I've subscribed to legitimately but haven't bothered to configure to not send promotional mail). I never really get promotional mail from 3rd parties at all. Is this just gmail filters being very good?

Gmail filters are very good. But if someone with the same name as you starts using your e-mail address for everything because they don't understand or care about needing to see the e-mails they receive then there's very little you can do to stop it other than unsubbing from lists they sign up for (where possible). I've been getting someone else's e-mail traffic for about 5 years now, on two separate Gmail accounts, a…

I've been in a similar situation for almost a decade now. There's an elderly woman who's email address is one character away on the keyboard from my own, and I often get emails meant for her. I tried for years to respond to inform them that they are using the incorrect email address, to no avail. At this point I've started to go in and disable/cancel anything that is signed up for with my email address and have to aggressively filter spam.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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Post by inigyou »

happyopossum wrote: post #184
inigyou wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? Of course Apple does that, and charges you for the privilege as well.

Understandable assumption if you haven't been paying attention to Apple and privacy, but incorrect: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/sign-in-with-app... >When you use Sign in with Apple on Safari, Apple sees when you sign in to a website so that Apple can authenticate your sign in, but Apple does not retain a history of what websites you sign in to or when you use Sign in with Apple.

I can lie too.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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Post by ksbd-pls-finish »

dcminter wrote: post #118
setopt wrote: post #113

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So any mail to anyrandomstring@yourdomain.com is actually received? Sounds like something that works great when only you do it, but might quickly be abused if it catches on?

If you do this you immediately get thousands of emails a day from bots trying common first names etc. Much better to maintain an explicit list of names you're currently allowing.

It never happened to me - I use a catch all and almost never got emails like this. Why would bots try to guess emails on random domains when there are billions of known emails to send spam to.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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Post by DarmokTanagra »

rsync wrote: post #186
DarmokTanagra wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

many cards offer virtual card numbers, robinhood card offers name anonymization. been a user for a couple years now and no complaints

A reminder: Neither visa nor MasterCard networks have the ability to verify cardholder name. Everyone behaves as if they do, but your name cannot be verified. Which is to say, all of these cards have name anonymization, not just robinhood.

I was unaware of that, is address also unverifiable?
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