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IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by tancop »

tylergetsay wrote: post #109

Has anyone looked at ar.io and have any opinions on it? They claim you are paying for 200 years upfront with a kind of endowment like setup.

Arweave does what it's designed for right now. When cyberleek came out I went looking for a gateway that wasn't censoring them, found one and downloaded the files using another gateway just to find out if it works (yes it did). You can't do that with a centralized system.

For the endowment setup no one knows if their economic thinking will hold up 100 or even 10 years in the future, so the claims that it's permanent are impossible to verify. I wouldn't call it a scam but I'm not fully convinced.

Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by ktm5j »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #148
ktm5j wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not their job to cater to your nitpicking. Even if this Google form didn't work over a VPN (which it totally does), you're capable of turning the VPN off if you really want to submit feedback. But it doesn't even sound like you have any feedback, so what's your problem?

I think it's a perfectly valid complaint about the ecosystem at large. Not a criticism of the individuals or of this specific case to be clear, but a broader observation that this isn't how things ought to be according to a certain set of ideals and the question then of why we keep seeing it over and over. Clearly there's some sort of systemic shortcoming that applies to the entire ecosystem.

What exactly is the complaint? They haven't even made that clear is my point.

Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by sadclown42 »

dannyw wrote: post #173
arccy wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

one of many, or the main maintainers? seems like they run a lot of the well known public infra too.

Shipyard has been one of the main maintainers because they have previously been an aggregator of funding — think consulting firm, that gets grants and hires people. Protocol Labs is moving and offering to pay (as far as I understand) the same maintainers and developers directly; just not via Shipyard.

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Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by [deleted] »

devttyeu wrote: post #4

Sad to see it go having been a maintainer some years ago. For anyone wondering, there are more sustainable (with a viable, focused business backing the project) options to do p2p, namely Iroh - https://www.iroh.computer/ which was built by ex-IPFS ex-Protocol Labs devs (I have no relation to the team beyond having worked with them back in the day). Sadly Protocol Labs is doing.. ehh whatever now, except apparently su…

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Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by sadclown42 »

devttyeu wrote: post #4

Sad to see it go having been a maintainer some years ago. For anyone wondering, there are more sustainable (with a viable, focused business backing the project) options to do p2p, namely Iroh - https://www.iroh.computer/ which was built by ex-IPFS ex-Protocol Labs devs (I have no relation to the team beyond having worked with them back in the day). Sadly Protocol Labs is doing.. ehh whatever now, except apparently su…

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Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by Macha »

uproarchat wrote: post #75
timcobb wrote: post #66

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Hmm I thought the asset is the block chain entry because that's what you have the key to, that you can re-sell to someone else. It's like crypto, no?

The asset is more akin to a deed or a claim. Most NFTs are images hosted on S3 or IPFS. The blockchain entry is metadata with a pointer to the hosted asset.

The value of the deed is it being backed by the legal system as proof of your ownership, up to potentially being enforced with government use of physical force.

Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by jMyles »

tancop wrote: post #199
haunter wrote: post #44

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See I thought if IPFS was picked up by the piracy scene (some bigger private trackers for example) then it probably would have been more successful. Alas I haven't seen it outside of libgen and even there I thought it was a backup option only.

Arweave on the other hand will be getting some traction from the GTA 6 leaker. It's not good for all use cases because you need to buy storage with crypto instead of just running your own node but for small, valuable, rarely updated and heavily targeted files (like a website with illegal links) it's perfect.

I've always found Sam (one of the founders) to be a really good guy. I remember we went bouldering in Berlin when a lot of the early Arweave concepts were still coming out of his skull and we worked out a lot of it in conversation between boulder problems.

Maybe I need to put my music on Arweave.

Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by fc417fc802 »

inigyou wrote: post #193
fc417fc802 wrote: post #151

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Censorship resistant in the same sense that bittorrent is, with no single centralized server or domain registration to target.

But bittorrent has been successfully censored. People are afraid to run it because they know their ISP will forward them demand letters.

That's not what we were talking about here. But as long as we're on this tangent I hardly think using a VPN constitutes a high bar to clear. There are still plenty of jurisdictions remaining in the world that in practice don't care to enforce copyright law against individuals (or sometimes at all).
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