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Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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No matter how absurd the situation becomes, no matter how engaging the videos are, we should never be fooled into thinking Iran are the good guys. This is an unfortunate, ill-conceived war, but that doesn't clean Iran's hands.

Iran may be the originators of good/evil duality but that doesn't mean we should follow their lead.

Anyway Iran are good enough when we want, we fought alongside them in Afghanistan after 9/11 and against ISIS. Their oil was good enough to (let BP) take 80% of it for 30 years.

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No matter how absurd the situation becomes, no matter how engaging the videos are, we should never be fooled into thinking Iran are the good guys. I don't think there are many people who believe "Iran are the good guys." Lots of people do understand that bombing civilian infrastructure, killing innocent civilians, and taking actions that were inevitably going to lead Iran to respond with the goal of inflicting wide…

These are all things Ukraine does, "bombing civilian infrastructure, killing innocent civilians, and taking actions that were inevitably going to lead Iran[Russia] to respond with the goal of inflicting widespread economic damage". It is extremely tiresome to hear such a litany without a wider analysis. In its mad program to retain control of ... Syria, of all places ... Iran killed and incinerated and dissolved in a…

Ukraine has been fighting for its right to continue existing for several years against an aggressor (i.e., Russia), who, from day one, attacked their civilians and civilian infrastructure. Russia shows no signs of giving up after all this time, so I'm not sure I can fault the logic of any Ukranian strategist who concluded they needed to respond in kind in the hopes it might make the war less popular to the Russian population.

If one side in a conflict is ignoring the rules, especially if it's the aggressor/occupying force, you cannot expect the other side to continue following them. The moral high ground is a luxury affordable only when you're the overwhelmingly superior force.

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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post #3

No matter how absurd the situation becomes, no matter how engaging the videos are, we should never be fooled into thinking Iran are the good guys. This is an unfortunate, ill-conceived war, but that doesn't clean Iran's hands.

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The moral difference here is, of course, that one side has institutionalized child-rape for religious reasons and has imams play pimps for thousands of children forced into prostitution to get raped.

The other side has a bunch of criminals that sometimes succeed in rape and the most famous of whom is now dead rather than confess.

Both are bad. One is a disgusting large-scale moral failing in the religion they follow and will continue without limit, the other is a mistake that was ended by the authorities.

One is infinitely worse than other.

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

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The Israeli government has openly and publicly stated they will spread false information and propaganda directly through social media etc, which they heavily control all throughout the west, and have directly threatened western politicians that don't support their (often false) rhetoric, along with themselves conducting terrorist activities outside their own borders. I'm frankly quite tired of hearing about how terri…

Lol the pro zionist accounts are arriving it seems.

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

#26
post #3

No matter how absurd the situation becomes, no matter how engaging the videos are, we should never be fooled into thinking Iran are the good guys. This is an unfortunate, ill-conceived war, but that doesn't clean Iran's hands.

Iran are the bad guys. Israel are the worse guys.

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

#27
post #3

No matter how absurd the situation becomes, no matter how engaging the videos are, we should never be fooled into thinking Iran are the good guys. This is an unfortunate, ill-conceived war, but that doesn't clean Iran's hands.

You have been fooling yourself for decades that you're the good guys.

But you're not. No amount of mental gymnastics can help at this point to justify all the evil things USA does around the globe because of greed and lust for dominance.

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

#28
post #3

No matter how absurd the situation becomes, no matter how engaging the videos are, we should never be fooled into thinking Iran are the good guys. This is an unfortunate, ill-conceived war, but that doesn't clean Iran's hands.

You have been fooling yourself for decades that you're the good guys. But you're not. No amount of mental gymnastics can help at this point to justify all the evil things USA does around the globe because of greed and lust for dominance.

I do need to agree with you.

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have been fooling yourself for decades that you're the good guys. But you're not. No amount of mental gymnastics can help at this point to justify all the evil things USA does around the globe because of greed and lust for dominance.

I do need to agree with you.

Iranian regime are not the good guys either, but they're the product of what regimes in UK and USA was doing to the country for decades, because of their oil.

Re: Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do need to agree with you.

Iranian regime are not the good guys either, but they're the product of what regimes in UK and USA was doing to the country for decades, because of their oil.

Exactly.
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