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iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

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Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#121

I wish I could set up "Sign in with Apple" on a blog without paying $99/yr for a developer license.

Why do you want this. Is it a benefit to you? If it is why should you not pay for that benefit? Nothing is free.

Since when did we start accepting that paying for providing OAuth sign-in for other companies is good?

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#122

I wish I could set up "Sign in with Apple" on a blog without paying $99/yr for a developer license.

Why do you want this. Is it a benefit to you? If it is why should you not pay for that benefit? Nothing is free.

You say nothing is free, but Amazon, Discord, Dropbox, Facebook, GitHub, Google, Instagram, Microsoft, Paypal, Reddit, Slack, Steam, TikTok, Twitter etc all offer it for free.

Plus, it's not for the dev, it's for the users of the website.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#123

I wish I could set up "Sign in with Apple" on a blog without paying $99/yr for a developer license.

Why do you want this. Is it a benefit to you? If it is why should you not pay for that benefit? Nothing is free.

It's mutually beneficial to everyone involved, Apple, the blog, the user.

No leaked email address, no need for anyone to store password, people using iCloud instead of Gmail.

What they're asking, for it to cost zero, sounds perfectly reasonable here.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#124
post #113

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So any mail to anyrandomstring@yourdomain.com is actually received? Sounds like something that works great when only you do it, but might quickly be abused if it catches on?

If you do this you immediately get thousands of emails a day from bots trying common first names etc. Much better to maintain an explicit list of names you're currently allowing.

Going back on topic, Apple offers mail hosting for custom domain, along with the optional “one mailbox, infinite aliases” feature we’re discussing right now. I’ve been using it for a while now and no bot spam. No spam at all actually.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#125
post #58

This is a huge selling point. Private email relays often get blocked, the only lasting solution is to put them on the same domain as, and in the same format as, a significant number of non-private email addresses. As far as I’m aware the only other provider doing this is Fastmail. Comments about lock-in aren’t wrong, but it has to be this way. You can make arbitrary email addresses at your own domain, but anybody who…

> You can make arbitrary email addresses at your own domain, but anybody who feels like it can trivially automatically detect that those are all you.

You assume that the domain is used by one person or what?

Also, the point of these is typically to prevent spam. Noone is going to spend a fraction of a cent or second to try and figure out who is behind the adress.

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#126
post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So any mail to anyrandomstring@yourdomain.com is actually received? Sounds like something that works great when only you do it, but might quickly be abused if it catches on?

If you do this you immediately get thousands of emails a day from bots trying common first names etc. Much better to maintain an explicit list of names you're currently allowing.

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Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#127
post #34
post #33

Can someone explain the backstory behind this? I'm reading some of the comments here and I feel like I'm missing something here.

For the "hide my email" feature, Apple currently and has always used "@icloud.com". This masks you amongst all iCloud users. They were planning to change it to a custom domain, which would allow sites to easily filter out and reject "Hide my email" users based on the email. They have now reverted their plans to change this, meaning "hide my email" is still "@icloud.com".

Except the post says it will be @private.icloud.com

Whereas people's Apple emails are often at @icloud.com

So I don't think it masks you amongst all iCloud users. I'm confused how this is much better!

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you want this. Is it a benefit to you? If it is why should you not pay for that benefit? Nothing is free.

You say nothing is free, but Amazon, Discord, Dropbox, Facebook, GitHub, Google, Instagram, Microsoft, Paypal, Reddit, Slack, Steam, TikTok, Twitter etc all offer it for free. Plus, it's not for the dev, it's for the users of the website.

And they all sell your data

Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

#130
post #36

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how is the user being held hostage? you can redirect hide my email addresses to any domain

Marketing turds can't just block registrations from all of @icloud.com.

Can they block registrations from @private.icloud.com?
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