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Re: Mark Zuckerberg donates $500 million

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I might be willing to accept a lot of strings for 500mil ... just saying.

Problem is Zuck wants your soul and takes it for far less than $500 mil then sells it to other people and gives someone some stock with those strings attached... When you put it that way, he can't be anything other than an asshole.

Rock solid logic.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg donates $500 million

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I'm getting a bit miffed at the comments talking about this being a "PR move" or helpful for a "tax break". Did I read this wrong or did it not say 500. MILLION. dollars? The cynicism must be pretty darn strong to try and explain that away by anything other than Zuck wanting to do some good with his shares and money. We should be applauding it, not over-analyzing it for how it benefits him.

If you go into a HN thread like this and expect someone to not shit all over someone giving away millions of dollars to charity, you haven't been paying attention.

Unless HN is navel-gazing, negativity is the default.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg donates $500 million

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be willing to accept a lot of strings for 500mil ... just saying.

Problem is Zuck wants your soul and takes it for far less than $500 mil then sells it to other people and gives someone some stock with those strings attached... When you put it that way, he can't be anything other than an asshole.

Banks use your money for interest and loans (or at least a percentage) and you get "free" money in the form of credit cards and interest. Facebook uses your data for ads in exchange for "free" services.

You can always opt out if you don't like it. Store your data in your mattress. :)

Re: Mark Zuckerberg donates $500 million

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I'm getting a bit miffed at the comments talking about this being a "PR move" or helpful for a "tax break". Did I read this wrong or did it not say 500. MILLION. dollars? The cynicism must be pretty darn strong to try and explain that away by anything other than Zuck wanting to do some good with his shares and money. We should be applauding it, not over-analyzing it for how it benefits him.

> Did I read this wrong or did it not say 500. MILLION. dollars?

This isn't directed at Zuck or Facebook, or anything. Because I really don't know him.

But regarding your shock about the dollar amount...

Keep in mind that it's incredibly easy to be generous when you are at the top. It's actually so easy, that it's almost effortless.

There really is a difference between a man that writes a check that makes no difference to him (in the amount), and a man with nothing that roles up his sleeves, goes out, and dedicates himself to helping others.

I'll celebrate the latter before I'll celebrate the former.

One throws money away, the other helps change everyone around him.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg donates $500 million

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You've just lost any credibility by saying this.

You're right. Thanks. People like the parent bring out the worst in me -- people who judge others without lifting a finger. I'm not sure what I was trying to accomplish with the name-calling, though.

Thanks for the rational reply.

For ref, I don't do nothing - I do a lot of charitable work which benefits people directly (children with neurological problems). No stock, no schemes (other than gift aid). I won't go into the amount in detail but per year for the last year it's been larger than zuck's donation aggregated per Facebook staff member

I'm entitled to judge a person by their own standards - in public, in front of people, which is how zuck wants us to live our social life.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg donates $500 million

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Problem is Zuck wants your soul and takes it for far less than $500 mil then sells it to other people and gives someone some stock with those strings attached... When you put it that way, he can't be anything other than an asshole.

Banks use your money for interest and loans (or at least a percentage) and you get "free" money in the form of credit cards and interest. Facebook uses your data for ads in exchange for "free" services. You can always opt out if you don't like it. Store your data in your mattress. :)

That I do.

People know how banks operate and they are regulated. The same is not true for Facebook, which makes negative policy decisions all the time.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg donates $500 million

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These comments are so pathetic it kills me. This man just donated half of a billion dollars to a good cause. There is absolutely no way around the fact that a donation of that size is an incredible act of generosity. If he did it to get a tax break or to impress his neighbor it wouldn't change a thing.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg donates $500 million

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I'm getting a bit miffed at the comments talking about this being a "PR move" or helpful for a "tax break". Did I read this wrong or did it not say 500. MILLION. dollars? The cynicism must be pretty darn strong to try and explain that away by anything other than Zuck wanting to do some good with his shares and money. We should be applauding it, not over-analyzing it for how it benefits him.

> Did I read this wrong or did it not say 500. MILLION. dollars? This isn't directed at Zuck or Facebook, or anything. Because I really don't know him. But regarding your shock about the dollar amount... Keep in mind that it's incredibly easy to be generous when you are at the top. It's actually so easy, that it's almost effortless . There really is a difference between a man that writes a check that makes no differe…

First, "throws money away", really? It's going toward something good, helping real people's lives. Second it's fine if you want to measure someone's charitableness by their personal sacrifice, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with measuring it by the impact of their actions. In your scenario I would say the money being thrown away would have much more of an impact.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg donates $500 million

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I'm getting a bit miffed at the comments talking about this being a "PR move" or helpful for a "tax break". Did I read this wrong or did it not say 500. MILLION. dollars? The cynicism must be pretty darn strong to try and explain that away by anything other than Zuck wanting to do some good with his shares and money. We should be applauding it, not over-analyzing it for how it benefits him.

> Did I read this wrong or did it not say 500. MILLION. dollars? This isn't directed at Zuck or Facebook, or anything. Because I really don't know him. But regarding your shock about the dollar amount... Keep in mind that it's incredibly easy to be generous when you are at the top. It's actually so easy, that it's almost effortless . There really is a difference between a man that writes a check that makes no differe…

Why not celebrate both?

Beyond that, even if we accept the premise that it's easier for Zucker to give away $500MM than someone with little to donate a fraction of that amount, the money will absolutely have a great net impact on society as a whole. Isn't that contribution to the betterment of all worth a major celebration?

I think part of the problem is that it's hard to conceptualize what sort of impact donations as large as these will have. If we actually met the thousands of people that this gift will help out, and heard their stories of what a different it made, I think it'd be much harder to dismiss than it is a written number.

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