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Google is making private AI practical with homomorphic encryption

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Post by luckydata »

bevekspldnw wrote: post #283
luckydata wrote: post #110

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and you don't know who I am. I might have been closer to that work than you would know.

The work I’m guessing yes you are aware, but not the legal side of how they allow ads to circumvent the dog and pony show you put your life into. Thats the embarrassing part, you know “don’t be evil” went out the window years ago, yet still think you’re making a difference with your little bit shifting games. As if the moment the work you do bumped against against revenue it would hold.

when I worked at google I was known to be a very effective "legal whisperer". I spent more time in legal reviews in the last decade than you'll ever spend in the entirety of your life as I was working on infrastructure dealing with tons of PII working across the globe. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about here.

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Post by Cider9986 »

amazingamazing wrote: post #40
rexpop wrote: post #39

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I suspect that your one moment of thought follows many years of contemplation. Maybe you can fill us in on some of that background.

How do you make e2e password management work on multiple devices as convenient as not? You cannot. Most people who use Google trust them. And if you do not trust them then why are you using their password manager? You see? Hence why they do not bother. Of course one might read this and say, multi device e2ee is possible! Sure, but can you allow for recovery when people inevitably lose their recovery codes at scale? I…

Literally all major password managers are E2EE except Google's. The UX is fine.

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Post by jgerrish »

u1hcw9nx wrote: post #123
michaelmrose wrote: post #91

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Which seems massively worse than a real local device in fact 2x is probably untenable to the point of uselessness because actually privacy sensitive matters need actual privacy that can't be defeated by your government telling Google to serve you compromised js and spy on you anyway and most people don't give 2 shits about privacy so they won't pay 10% more let alone 2x. I'm glad people fund things that are only of i…

I think you have completely wrong use cases in mind. You will not use this for normal compute workloads. Typical use cases are for doing biometric authentication without giving your biometric information, or sensitive queries using medical information. Apple has homomorphic encryption in image search. You can use your own photos encrypted into the cloud to search for landmarks in the image without revealing photos. P…

But for some fields, almost EVERYTHING they touch is sensitive. I've been reviewing PPML for wildlife management purposes, which my brother is involved in and my other brother, a ML expert, may want to be involved in.

With wildlife management, you're dealing with health issues, like rabies outbreaks. That requires privacy. You want to preserve customer confidentially because it's often embarassing. And private property cameras and sensors can leak information about private citizens or kids in a neighborhood without appropriate social and technical protections.

There are hundreds of fields like this. Not just healthcare and policing.

We are likely to see a lot of the hardware required for this to move out into space data centers for batch jobs at least.

And along with that calls for reduced RF and light pollution like StarLink.

And that is going to be helped by a large number of angry liberal citizens who are being riled up about data centers. And that anti-tech rhetoric is already leading to violent responses and debate.

Which hurts the liberal cause for universal healthcare. Conservatives see angry liberal anti-tech actions and tarnish calls for healthcare reform and other liberal causes.

The people who are going to benefit the most from cheaper PPML in orbiting data centers are in many ways making it harder for the rest of us.

It's not a small issue, and I wish I had had the reputation to reduce the anger.

It seems unrelated to PPML. But PPML is a clever political gas pedal to get space control.

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Post by agilemonkey »

bitpush wrote: post #47
Cider9986 wrote: post #22

This is the same Google that doesn't have e2ee on their password manager by default. Like WTF, it's a password manager.

F. Scott Fitzgerald's test of top-tier intelligence - > Holding two opposing views in the mind means accepting two contradictory ideas at the same time without needing to pick one side or rush to a simple answer I continue to use Apple products because they are top class even though everytime I think of Tim Cook in the Oval Office presenting the gold plaque to the current president, it makes me wanna puke. World isnt…

That must be the most convenient excuse I have seen to avoid taking responsibility.

"I know the raw materials for these clothes come from slavery, but hey, what can I do ? They're the softest."

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