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MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Yeah I switched to Windows 11 recently and was a little annoyed by that - Notepad was always a place to paste formatted junk to get the plaintext - I don't need anything persisted.

They also added a settings menu where you can go and turn all of the things you don't like off, including that.

Then they should've left those things off by default, rather than messing with the expected flow of the application for everyone.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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> it was called WordPad and no-one used it so they eventually deleted it. about a third of windows users used wordpad. that's not a small amount the issue, as i see it, is that they took two tools with two different user communities and slammed them together

>about a third of windows users used wordpad. What's your source? I'm curious about use rates of other tools, I didn't know MS published that info.

last place i worked at had internal telemetry on end user machines. i dont know the way it was being used, although i suspect it was a document viewer.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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The people who still use Windows yet complain about this are quite confusing to me. There's been every indication that it will keep going like this for years now, and the cost of switching is just not that high. If you're still riding that train it's time to just embrace it.

> the cost of switching is just not that high. For you. I mean, obviously it's still high enough that they're not switching. Beside the point, I'm bouncing between the different OSes at home and work, and honestly they're all deeply broken in different ways that require significant effort to make the best of it. I get people hate ads, so Windows is at the bottom of the list, but honestly I could care less for that ad…

> e.g. the company getting bought by a random malware vendor

That point is a bit moot when the whole OS is a malware.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

#264
> On Copilot+ PCs, image generation is local but prompt moderation remains remote

Anyone disturbed about that ? It's your computer, running locally, but Microsoft can tell you 'no'.

It's like you want to open a folder and it asks permission to Microsoft.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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The AI aspect of this is a red herring. The real problem is that they're secretly adding in a unique identifier into every image you create. If somebody does not like your meme, they can just send a copyright subpoena to Microsoft to instantly get your full name, address, email, phone number, and any other data associated with your Microsoft account. Just like age verification, this is another weapon in the war again…

Why would they need to subpoena Microsoft and why will Microsoft hand them the data if someone doesn't like my meme? I understand what you are trying to say but it does not make a whole lot of sense even from Microsoft pov. They are not bound by law to hand over personal data to anyone without a warrant issued. If a warrant is issued then it is their lawful duty to give that data, the same would be done by you if you…

Watermarking is just one puzzle piece in the surveillance state; the legislation around it another.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

#268

> On Copilot+ PCs, image generation is local but prompt moderation remains remote Anyone disturbed about that ? It's your computer, running locally, but Microsoft can tell you 'no'. It's like you want to open a folder and it asks permission to Microsoft.

I would be surprised that anyone is surprised by this. They've been making local accounts harder and harder now to the point of being impossible.

Anyone not deep in tech will accept the "think of the children" defense without much worry, and anyone who is deep in tech already knows that if you really want an OS that doesn't spy on you, you need to go to a *nix of some flavor.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

#269

> On Copilot+ PCs, image generation is local but prompt moderation remains remote Anyone disturbed about that ? It's your computer, running locally, but Microsoft can tell you 'no'. It's like you want to open a folder and it asks permission to Microsoft.

I'm disturbed by everything.

Prompt moderation, GUID insertion, watermark insertion; track anything and everything, probably done in the name of "protect the children".

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

#270
post #24

The AI aspect of this is a red herring. The real problem is that they're secretly adding in a unique identifier into every image you create. If somebody does not like your meme, they can just send a copyright subpoena to Microsoft to instantly get your full name, address, email, phone number, and any other data associated with your Microsoft account. Just like age verification, this is another weapon in the war again…

It's like Snowden said (paraphrasing): "If privacy comes from policy, the policy can be changed on a whim, and in effect you have no privacy at all"
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