Ox-Alpha Is GLM? • Hacker News Board

minimaxir wrote: post #12

behnamoh wrote: post #11

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You cannot "dox" an AI model. Given the traction the model has received, it is extremely newsworthy to know who's developing and hosting it.

my question is: how does that affect a company's strategy? it's not like management is gonna switch models soon as a new shiny one drops. entire workflows depend on specific models working the way they do; you can't just swap out models.

Re: Ox-Alpha Is GLM?

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Post by minimaxir » Tue, Aug 25, 2026, 4:51 AM UTC

behnamoh wrote: post #13

minimaxir wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You cannot "dox" an AI model. Given the traction the model has received, it is extremely newsworthy to know who's developing and hosting it.

my question is: how does that affect a company's strategy? it's not like management is gonna switch models soon as a new shiny one drops. entire workflows depend on specific models working the way they do; you can't just swap out models.

If it's a really really good model, then yes, people will switch as long as the price is right. Ox Alpha is looking to be a really really good model to the point that it competes with Fable/Sol, and will likely beat them on price.

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Post by nullbio » Tue, Aug 25, 2026, 5:10 AM UTC

xorgun wrote: post #10

Dont rule out ssi

That would be insanely disappointing.

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Post by jerrythegerbil » Tue, Aug 25, 2026, 5:10 AM UTC

As someone who uses NCD nearly every day, I have concerns about how it’s been used here.

But while we’re “guessing”: Xiaomi MiMO

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Post by gvkhna » Tue, Aug 25, 2026, 5:11 AM UTC

If it’s not zhipu then why is it returning errors that zhipu does for other models? Who else would return the exact same errors even if they took a lot of core infra like tokenizer from z?

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Post by mogili » Tue, Aug 25, 2026, 5:12 AM UTC

It's not a good model tbh, got a bunch of things wrong that Opus corrected in my codebase.

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Post by BoredomIsFun » Tue, Aug 25, 2026, 5:12 AM UTC

Bolwin wrote: post #4

volf_ wrote: post #2

GLM 5.3 and all previous models don't have a vision encoder and can only accept text. Ox-Alpha can accept video and images, so unless Z-ai added a pretty good vision encoder for this model, I don't think so. My money is on Moonshot and this being Kimi K3.5. The measured tps and latency is in-line with K3's tps and latency from Moonshot. MiniMax M3.5 is also possible (but the MiniiMax provider is a lot more performant…

Glm had made vision models in the past. Look up GLM 5v. The only question now is if it's 5.3v, 5.4/5.5 or a dedicated flash/vision model

GLM made pretty decent for that time small 9b vision model, GLM-4.1.

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Post by volf_ » Tue, Aug 25, 2026, 5:14 AM UTC

behnamoh wrote: post #13

minimaxir wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You cannot "dox" an AI model. Given the traction the model has received, it is extremely newsworthy to know who's developing and hosting it.

my question is: how does that affect a company's strategy? it's not like management is gonna switch models soon as a new shiny one drops. entire workflows depend on specific models working the way they do; you can't just swap out models.

same business model as crack. best way to get people hooked is to make the first hits free.