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Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)

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Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)

#11

“educate, inspire, and strengthen the hearts and wills of free men.” Funny how times have changed and more or less everyone on every side is fighting for the strength and survival of their own groupthink and little more.

Eventually, people realize they will never agree and therefore don't have to fight.

They realize the majority of their beliefs already existed before they were born and will continue on after they're dead. They have nothing to add to the conversation while they are too busy fighting. They turn their focus to developing their ideas peacefully and let their subcultures flourish once again.

This isn't the first cycle and won't be the last. The last major cycle was in the 20th century due to broadcast media. I think people sometimes forget how relatively young the internet is.

Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you not appreciate art?

I love art. Contemporary art is a bunch of ugly wankery by pretentious people who are bored of actual beauty and can only amuse themselves by creating ugly stuff, then claiming "you just don't get it". The world would be a significantly better place without contemporary art in it.

This could have been written at any point after the 1850s or so.

Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you not appreciate art?

I like bananas. https://www.npr.org/2024/11/21/nx-s1-5199568/a-duct-taped-ba...

Okay, this is a bit too far xD. But I wouldn’t put this in the same bucket as Pollock. I genuinely find his work interesting.

Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)

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I don’t know if this is a reaction to AI or something, but recently I’ve only been interested in classical/realism art. I just can’t do abstract cubes anymore. The default wallpaper of windows 11 is a perfect example - I hate it. Give me a wallpaper of some painting from the Renaissance.

Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)

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And here I was thinking any psyop was necessarily bad.

The leadership of nations requires you to put pressure on the thoughts and minds of your people, left to their own devices those minds will simply be shaped by someone else.

The morality in it comes from your motivation and methods. Secretly giving piles of money to the weirdos you successfully identify as being the leaders of artistic movements to amplify those movements can't be all that bad.

The question of the day is if you were the CIA trying to do the same thing today, who and what would you fund?

Re: Was modern art a CIA psy-op? (2020)

#20
Betteridge’s law prevails. A fun read, but not as fun as the title suggests.

tl;dr Modern art existed before the CIA and even CIA predecessors did not originate it, but they did push it abroad to show that America is great because we put up with modern art made by socialists depite most americans disliking both the art and the artists

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