I'm a bit confused - when i see these signups, they look like this to me:
rtwnj6tj7@privaterelay.appleid.com
iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com
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Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com
#42One of the best things about it. Also being able to add several emails per custom domain for free. Whole thing is 99c a month. Makes Gmail seem like a joke in comparison. Until you get an email from an iCloud address on Gmail and see it go right to spam haha. Suddenly Gmail is cheap again
Maybe it's because I live in a country where e-mai isn't really used that much for personal communication, but wouldn't this mainly be a gmail issue? If mails I wanted ended up in the spam folder I'd not use gmail. I mean, I pay for protonmail, so I wouldn't use gmail to begin with, but if mails I wanted ended up in my protonmail spamfolder and I couldn't do anything about it, then I'd switch away from protonmail.
If you’re talking about people with the technical sophistication to consider software services based on their technical merits, then sure. Your average user couldn’t even tell you the first thing about which non-content-based criteria might inform a spam score… or have even heard of a spam score. So they will absolutely not blame Gmail if another provider’s email gets spam flagged… they’d probably just think “why don’t they just get a Gmail account,” à la iMessage users/green texts.
Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com
#43it will still be on "private.icloud.com". Just as filterable...
Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com
#44Using icloud.com domain for legit and hidden adresses is such a typical Apple strategy of holding their own users and "others" (ie. other web services, other users etc) hostage simultaneously. But at least here it is actually a good reason that works for the user.
Case in point: many websites block all VPN except iCloud Private Relay. Thank you Apple!
Seriously, Apple is "big tech," but they are the only one that appears to give a crap about privacy at all. And really, they put a lot of money and effort into it.
We need to give kudos when they are due.
Apple's Private Cloud Compute should have won some kind of Nobel Privacy Prize, which for some reason does not yet exist.
Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com
#45I'm a bit confused - when i see these signups, they look like this to me: rtwnj6tj7@privaterelay.appleid.com
I think the post is very explicit. First sentence:
> Starting later this year, new Sign in with Apple addresses, previously issued on privaterelay.appleid.com, will be issued on private.icloud.com. Existing addresses on privaterelay.appleid.com will continue to work and forward mail to users without interruption.
Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you know any more about it or have a link where I can read more?
I’ll try to add more later, but it is believed that multiple times, a bug in some random API has allowed for the “hidden” Apple account to be revealed because they resolve hide my emails to the original internally. Using a separate namespace would be the universal fix. A mitigation for the cause of https://www.404media.co/apple-hide-my-email-vulnerability-re...
This doesn't follow. The bounce message used to (effectively) say,
> abc@icloud.com forwards to real@gmail.com
If they switched the new domain and did nothing else, it would say:
> abc@privaterelay.appleid.com forwards to real@gmail.com
That's no better. Fixing that privacy leak is unrelated to whatever the destination domain is.
Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Case in point: many websites block all VPN except iCloud Private Relay. Thank you Apple!
Seriously, Apple is "big tech," but they are the only one that appears to give a crap about privacy at all. And really, they put a lot of money and effort into it. We need to give kudos when they are due. Apple's Private Cloud Compute should have won some kind of Nobel Privacy Prize, which for some reason does not yet exist.
The person you're replying to is saying "Sites I use block all VPNs besides Apple's subscription service VPN" - I'm not sure they're not blocking it just because they fervently believe in Apple's privacy commitments and engineering :)
Only pointing this out because I love Apple's privacy story and don't want your reply to be misconstrued as sarcasm, and thus the reason why it enjoys a singular exemption is because its ineffective.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seriously, Apple is "big tech," but they are the only one that appears to give a crap about privacy at all. And really, they put a lot of money and effort into it. We need to give kudos when they are due. Apple's Private Cloud Compute should have won some kind of Nobel Privacy Prize, which for some reason does not yet exist.
The person you're replying to is saying "Sites I use block all VPNs besides Apple's subscription service VPN" - I'm not sure they're not blocking it just because they fervently believe in Apple's privacy commitments and engineering :) Only pointing this out because I love Apple's privacy story and don't want your reply to be misconstrued as sarcasm, and thus the reason why it enjoys a singular exemption is because it…
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Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com
#49it will still be on "private.icloud.com". Just as filterable...
It won't. The news here is that it won't.
Re: iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seriously, Apple is "big tech," but they are the only one that appears to give a crap about privacy at all. And really, they put a lot of money and effort into it. We need to give kudos when they are due. Apple's Private Cloud Compute should have won some kind of Nobel Privacy Prize, which for some reason does not yet exist.
The person you're replying to is saying "Sites I use block all VPNs besides Apple's subscription service VPN" - I'm not sure they're not blocking it just because they fervently believe in Apple's privacy commitments and engineering :) Only pointing this out because I love Apple's privacy story and don't want your reply to be misconstrued as sarcasm, and thus the reason why it enjoys a singular exemption is because it…
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