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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by Levitz »

Dah00n wrote: post #284
mschuster91 wrote: post #179

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No. Chinese dumpers undercutting everyone else and destroying the competition is never good.

Was it bad when it was the US doing it against the UK? Or is it only when the people doing it eat more rice than us that it is bad? People said the same thing about the Japanese (they steal designs, they copy, it is bad quality, they are stealing our jobs, and so on).

>Or is it only when the people doing it eat more rice than us that it is bad?

It's definitely different when the player doesn't even have to play by the market. Comparing US companies and Chinese companies is not apples to apples.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by r_lee »

scarab92 wrote: post #474
wongarsu wrote: post #452

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I think the plan is to defend, with allies motivated by the goal of saving TSMC facilities. If you destroy them the moment China declares war, Taiwanese allies might be much less invested But at the same time everyone understands that the Taiwanese would destroy the facilities before they fall into Chinese hands

Why would China care if Taiwan blows up its fabs? The talent is still there, so they could rebuild, or recruit the talent to work for Chinese mainland fabs instead?

wouldn't it be more likely that they'd flee to e.g. the US which would poach them and shower them with money?

maybe easier said than done but still

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by r_lee »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #410
m00x wrote: post #400

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I've lived in Taiwan for a large part of my life. They would lose all of TSMC if they do any military actions. It's not the fact that the CCP thinks that they can make Taiwan and China a country, it's the the fact that most of China does in fact consider them as one country. Taiwan is ready to defend themselves, but are very happy keeping their relationship with China the way it is.

My bet would be that invasion wouldn't look like quick war, but slow control of political power either through light force like economic blackmail, or through something similar to what US did with Venezuela. Now that US has already opened the gate to labelling nation head as drug seller, this just eases things for China.

just a gut feeling, but if they had to for some reason, I feel like they'd just go in and bomb as much strategic assets and invade, because in their eyes aside from Taiwan, there isn't much left to "unify" and it'd be historic, not something they'd need to do every decade or even century

I feel like Russia thought the same of Ukraine, even though it is way bigger

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by don_esteban »

saturn8601 wrote: post #448
don_esteban wrote: post #355

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One of the (many) areas in which China is doing great is industrial robotics. Not the fancy dancing dogs, but robots that replace workers in factories.

That why I said it either goes to robots or it goes away. Can the current robots replace something like this? I don't think right now but maybe they figure it out. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFYxSX6xP2U

That factory looked like it employed a lot of easily replaceable manual work.

You don't have to replace 100% of workforce, replace just the ones whose work is the easiest to do by a robot.

Replacing 50% of workforce buys you enough time that by the time your available worker pool has shrunk 50%, robotics and AI will be much better and you will be able to replace another big chunk.

Production-wise, shrinking demographics are not such a big deal (they still have a lot of youth unemployment).

Shrinking demographics is a problem due to a) the ratio of workers vs seniors, b) shrinking overall demand pool -> shrinking economy c) smaller overall talent pool -> less diversity, less 'geniuses', i.e. the real drivers of innovation, and less capability to mobilize for great projects

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by hibikir »

faitswulff wrote: post #328
peezd wrote: post #274

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I can't imagine it going any other way than what we've seen from every other country in your set of examples, honestly.

China actually penalizes, imprisons, and even executes its billionaires, so that’s different.

The right way to read this isn't that all billionaires can face consquenecs, but that the line that makes sure you don't face consequences is quite a bit different than being a billionaire. You can still have a power center, and impunity, as long as you make sure your misbehavior doesn't embarrass the people with the actual power. Those are smart enough to not do the things they shouldn't in a way that can be made public, and therefore cause said embarrassment.

One can prefer a regime where it's very hard for people who abuse their power to avoid punishment if it's all public to one where the powerful are emboldened enough to be able to be shameless. Even worse when the shamelessness is seen as the purest display of power, and thus people compete in their public misbehavior. But still, understand that the real barrier to punishment in the first case is not to avoid doing bad things, but to make sure that the witnesses either don't exist, or are too scared to say anything.

A judicial system that actually has no sacred cows would be better in all cases, but the sacred cows everywhere do their best to make sure this doesn't happen.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by danparsonson »

axus wrote: post #445
m00x wrote: post #400

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I've lived in Taiwan for a large part of my life. They would lose all of TSMC if they do any military actions. It's not the fact that the CCP thinks that they can make Taiwan and China a country, it's the the fact that most of China does in fact consider them as one country. Taiwan is ready to defend themselves, but are very happy keeping their relationship with China the way it is.

As a resident of Taiwan, would you say the average person there is comfortable obeying a strong central government, whoever that currently is? As an American, I found the deference to authority very strange.

> As an American, I found the deference to authority very strange.

Are schoolchildren in the US still required to recite the pledge of allegiance...?

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by blackqueeriroh »

RussianBot9580 wrote: post #465
axus wrote: post #445

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As a resident of Taiwan, would you say the average person there is comfortable obeying a strong central government, whoever that currently is? As an American, I found the deference to authority very strange.

As an American, what are ways in which you can not defer to an authority - in a way that actually matters? Sure, you can choose to go outside dressed in gaudy colors, or not dressed at all if you are in SF. Or choose to flip the Democrat/Republican bit once every 4 years (usually without any effect on domestic or foreign policy, though not lately). But in a regular person's life, what authority do you want to opt out…

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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by strictnein »

well_ackshually wrote: post #361
StilesCrisis wrote: post #192

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I'm sure it benchmarks well, but does it actually have good battery life?

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I mean, they're in a thread on my comment whose point is "let's see power per watt".

The goalposts started there. A comment responded to me by saying some Chinese youtubers found it to be good. The person responded saying "but what about battery life" which was the original topic.

The person you're responding to also has never said anything about any other metric.

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