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The Kindle Swindle?

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#11
Am I right in thinking that there's a potential opportunity for Amazon here? If they provide audio playback support for the Kindle they could sell combined Audio/eBooks that maybe even highlight the spoken text and turn in time to the audio?

I think this could be good for both audio books and ebooks as well as when considering the implications for educational books (such as language books or religious study materials).

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#12
So what do they want, should ebooks cost twice the price of normal books because they are both text and audiobooks now? I am sure doubling the price would increase the sales enormously, much to the pleasure of the authors.

Or maybe the system of having separate rights for all sorts of uses was crooked from the beginning.

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post #4

I'm sympathetic to the plight of the starving (or even well-fed) writer wanting to get paid for their work. But the opinion espoused in this piece is the classic argument that just because an industry has grown accustomed to a particular revenue stream or business model, they should therefore always and forever have the privilege of keeping it. And anyone who introduces products or technology to prevent that or cut i…

Also, isn't reading on a kindle also like a movie? At least when you scroll, the text is moving across the screen. So I think Amazon should also pay for the movie rights.

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post #5

He is ridiculous. I can do anything legal with the purchased file, that's my basic right as a customer.

your basic right as a customer is doing anything that the usage agreement of your product allows. You can't buy a CD, for instance, and play it in a show (at least not in most countries, since this can be defined as profiting from that profit, and you didn't buy that right when you bought the CD). You can't also play a DVD in an oil rig, school bus or any other public place (that's on the DVD agreement, right there when you turn it on). And if having your book reproduced as audio offends the 'Book Guild agreement', then you probably can't do it 'legally'. Ouch.

Yes, that's ridiculous - but that's as far as your 'basic rights' go...

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#15
Old guard always wants to protect a dying business because the people in charge have to wipe out their existing knowledge and experience of their business to go into a new business. When he/she goes into the new business, he/she would have no advantages vs a competitor that already exists in the field (i.e. a print executive going into tech). Most companies (due to the promotion structure) cannot make this jump some can (Intel).

I think e-books give the best chance for print to survive as a medium (in e-ink form, not in paper form). But as always, the captain of the ship fades away, not unlike a frog being slowly boiled to death because the temperature is slowly increasing.

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post #9

For the record: no, the Authors Guild does not expect royalties from anybody doing non-commercial performances of "Goodnight Moon." If parents want to send their children off to bed with the voice of Kindle 2, however, it’s another matter. I really don't follow his logic here. I think the fundamental question is "what is a performance?". I just find it hard to see that kindle reading = voice actor reading. Why go to…

Do read about what the music industry of the early 1900s had to say about the player piano:

http://www.eetimes.com/disruption/essays/vonlohmann.jhtml

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#17
I think Blount is overestimating the capacities of text-to-speech technology. Sure, there may be speech synthesizers that can cough and say "umm" and do other human-cadence-like things, but I suspect that inferring all those details of intonation from the normal punctuated text of a novel is beyond the capacity of present technology, and may even be AI-complete.

If the digital files on the Kindle contained lots of metadata, added by a human editor, to assist the text-to-speech system, then Blount would have more of a case.

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post #4

I'm sympathetic to the plight of the starving (or even well-fed) writer wanting to get paid for their work. But the opinion espoused in this piece is the classic argument that just because an industry has grown accustomed to a particular revenue stream or business model, they should therefore always and forever have the privilege of keeping it. And anyone who introduces products or technology to prevent that or cut i…

This is not his argument.

Separate revenue streams for audio books is not just a quaint custom in the publishing world, but a consequence of copyright law, which treats text and audio rights as properties that may be licensed separately. He's arguing that his constituents' property is being taken from them without their consent. I think his case is weak, but it's not dumb.

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post #5

He is ridiculous. I can do anything legal with the purchased file, that's my basic right as a customer.

No you can't. Maybe that's the way it should be, but you certainly can't read that book to an audience or crack the DRM and print out copies for your friends.

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#20
There's a big disconnect here. Copyright controls distribution, not use. Amazon is distributing ebooks, the exact same ebooks as they were distributing 3 months ago. The only difference is, they now have a tool that consumes the book differently.

It's the equivalent of music visualization tools. When I play a CD in my Xbox and it shows me pretty lights, no one considers that copyright infringement. It's the exact same functionality as text-to-speech, but in reverse.

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