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IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by sunshine-o »

dgellow wrote: post #24
devttyeu wrote: post #4

Sad to see it go having been a maintainer some years ago. For anyone wondering, there are more sustainable (with a viable, focused business backing the project) options to do p2p, namely Iroh - https://www.iroh.computer/ which was built by ex-IPFS ex-Protocol Labs devs (I have no relation to the team beyond having worked with them back in the day). Sadly Protocol Labs is doing.. ehh whatever now, except apparently su…

What is PL doing nowadays? I checked the website and don’t understand at all

A few years ago they got into the AI bandwagon and stoped funding the P2P/Web3 stuff from what I remember.

Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by jazzyjackson »

gwerbin wrote: post #77
muragekibicho wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess IPFS is an artifact from the crypto craze. It's pretty silly if you think of it. However, I must admit, I got my first ever developer grant from Filecoin while they were flush with ZIRP era money. btw,I thought it was an Initial Coin Offering, not an actual fundraise.

What's silly about it? Content-addressable decentralized storage -- not tied to a cryptocurrency -- is really valuable for censorship-resistant archiving of politically-sensitive data (such as climate change research).

Except it wasn’t censorship resistant at all, in that your node advertised itself as a node with a-z files on it. Separately you could put it behind a vpn or run a vps you paid for with monero, but fundamentally it’s more of a way just to pin a file to an address that works no matter what domain or IP the file is behind.

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Post by lallysingh »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #48

> If you have a favourite memory of working with Shipyard, or an idea you always hoped IPFS would eventually achieve, we’d love to hear it. Google Form One important thing I'd like to see IPFS or a similar decentralized web technology achieve, is getting rid of the necessity of filling out a Google form in order to tell the Shipyard people what I think about their maintenance of IPFS. Seriously it bugs me when people…

Imagine if all the energy spent whining on the purity of a system being insufficiently private or decentralized or somehow loyal to a fight against the man, was spent instead on actually improving those systems. They're open source.

Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by bastawhiz »

mmastrac wrote: post #63

I'm currently on sabbatical looking for volunteer work. I always thought IPFS was an interesting project, might be happy to pitch in some of my now-free bandwidth.

I don't think the problem was a lack of effort. The tech was interesting and innovative but the foundation of it had limits that were extremely hard to work past. As a technology it laid a lot of groundwork for better ideas, but I doubt it's worth investing in.

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Post by JeremyNT »

crest wrote: post #86
muragekibicho wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess IPFS is an artifact from the crypto craze. It's pretty silly if you think of it. However, I must admit, I got my first ever developer grant from Filecoin while they were flush with ZIRP era money. btw,I thought it was an Initial Coin Offering, not an actual fundraise.

What people did or planned to do with IPFS is pretty silly, but the idea of content addressed storage with cryptographic (not in a crypo coin way) names makes a lot of sense. It would make for a great software distribution method e.g. your game downloads get faster the more people want to play the latest version. It's the combination of Git and BitTorrent and has uses far beyond just hosting warez and NFTs.

Sure can see the use cases where it might be helpful, but "a better bittorrent" on its own doesn't warrant the hype or cash flowing into it.

I guess the user base has proven this out in the end. Torrents are good enough.

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Post by embedding-shape »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #38
rhodey wrote: post #5

This is really unfortunate. When cloudflare dropped IPFS you could say this next step was sort of already on the way. I may be biased but I think when IPFS decided to put so much time into "IPNS" in order to support non-static webapps years ago what they came up with did not fit the need. And without webapps on IPFS things were going nowhere. A year or so ago I wrote IPFS-boot which allows serving webapps on IPFS whi…

Why do you need Tailscale? Edit: Okay, so a couple of people have downvoted but no-one has answered. Why would you use tailscale to secure a web app?

I think parent is talking strictly about P2P, so you'll need (typically) something to help you tunnel between clients, as there are NATs and all sorts of things between two typical consumer computer at two different homes.

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Post by tetrisgm »

scirob wrote: post #60
rhodey wrote: post #5

This is really unfortunate. When cloudflare dropped IPFS you could say this next step was sort of already on the way. I may be biased but I think when IPFS decided to put so much time into "IPNS" in order to support non-static webapps years ago what they came up with did not fit the need. And without webapps on IPFS things were going nowhere. A year or so ago I wrote IPFS-boot which allows serving webapps on IPFS whi…

oh man and when Brave removed native IPFS support. https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/37735

Oh wow they did? I had no idea. Unfortunate

Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by devttyeu »

mikert89 wrote: post #12

Does IPFS actually have users? I remeber when they raised 270 million and a bunch of people there got wildly wealthy

I run a company currently serving ~1.7B requests per day (~20k/s) to ipfs gateways, so presumably still some. Very likely a big chunk of that is bots scraping stuff.

Re: IPFS Maintainers Winding Down

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Post by tetrisgm »

scirob wrote: post #65

I tried to build a few non crypto decentralized apps. The killer was reliable always deliverability inside the browser. https://inbrowser.link/ was a huge jump in utility but came to late the ipfs.js just never worked consistently. In the end the only way to get good XP for yours users was that you provider the IPFS to http gateway for all content but then whats the point its just decentralization theater. I remember…

Agreed. I was deep in the ecosystem, did the confs, shipped some apps. It’s hard to think of a use case that would be reliable now. Maybe some kinda file sync that is torrent like but http
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