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How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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General view of EU politicians is that working class should be working for big corporations. Running own business is a sin. The big corporations also don't want people to run small business, because they remove themselves from the job market and cannot be hired / exploited. So they lobby EU FOR regulations that ensure people cannot run business.

>General view of EU politicians is that working class should be working for big corporations The politicians are protecting the working class from corporations destroying society for profit. Lets not kid ourselves that the EU isn't endlessly praised for "having a backbone". Universal chargers, removable batteries, open app stores, AI data protections... The thing is that people generally don't understand that everyth…

> Universal chargers, removable batteries, open app stores, AI data protections...

The same "protections" also means that the E.U. has no major AI player at all. It seems like all the E.U. can do is tax and regulate what is invented and produced elsewhere.

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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You should do your own research and I don’t want to take up space on HN but I’m happy to take a look can you name what exactly you found hard to believe? It’s been known for decades small business can’t survive legal landscape as easily as large corps. If you are confused by the statement there are no small coffee shops - are you living in Europe? From first hand experience coffee shops survive less than a couple yea…

> You should do your own research Sure, but you should also understand that “look it up” is the escape words of every inane claim. “The Earth is flat, look it up”; “Reptilians are controlling the world, do your own research”; “Bill Gates is injecting you with mind-control chips, google it”. You can “do your own research” and “confirm” anything. Which is why the person making the original claim should provide sources,…

Thanks for your reply, you are right, its always helpful to have sources but you cant expect everyone to constantly source their statements, especially when they can just be googled.

Personally, and this could just be me, I think if I read something of interest I always do my own research, as I dont believe most of what I read, so I expect others to do the same.

I also think its rude to write alot of text instead of a concise expression of an idea.

Bro 5-8 paragraphs is like saying, prove every single point in half of what you wrote.

First of all I didnt "Make a claim" I said "For example". Bear in mind everyone infers differently. My point was there are setups that allow claimants to take small entities to court, without them having to foot the bill.

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Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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Yeah, this in between state is really frustrating. I hope we will see a push towards more federalization, but that’s unlikely

It’s unlikely because smaller member states wouldn’t want that as they’d be outvoted by bigger members and thus forced to implement laws that might not even make sense in those (smaller) countries.

It’s unlikely for a lot of reasons, but that’s not one of them given we don’t know what a federalized EU would look like.

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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Laws are voted by politicians. Do you mean that most EU politicians are puppets of EU corporations?

The one thing EU politicians hate is disruption. Entrepreneurs are fresh entrants trying to disrupt an existing market. The politicians don't even need to be puppets. The fact that these small startups exist and may even succeed is reason enough.

I'd say this is not limited to the politicians.

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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You should do your own research and I don’t want to take up space on HN but I’m happy to take a look can you name what exactly you found hard to believe? It’s been known for decades small business can’t survive legal landscape as easily as large corps. If you are confused by the statement there are no small coffee shops - are you living in Europe? From first hand experience coffee shops survive less than a couple yea…

uhh no, if you're the one making an argument the burden is on you to provide actual sources and not say "trust me bro, look it up." You're trying to argue how school children argue, aim a little higher if you want to convince people that know how to read.

You are insulting me which is an odd way to have a discussion on this forum, and no I disagree with you. Stop being lazy and do your own research. To help you along I gave some more info above. Thanks for the bump.

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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PPWR is an EU catastrophe. Firstly for the reasons outlined in the article: it essentially makes being a micro/small business in the EU impossible, if your market is other EU countries. Secondly because it validates insidious populist views that the EU institution is useless and incompetent at a fundamental level. The legislation is so ABSURDIST that the EU have actually asked companies to ignore the law that they ju…

> The legislation is so ABSURDIST that the EU have actually asked companies to ignore the law that they just implemented. I can assure you it is difficult to ignore a law that comes with a €200000 fine for non-compliance. That's the commission telling small businesses that please don't stop selling in the EU and suggesting member states should use common sense. Unfortunately, as with all EU directives the implementat…

Germany does an extra gold plating on every single EU regulation.

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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Yeah, this in between state is really frustrating. I hope we will see a push towards more federalization, but that’s unlikely

It’s unlikely because smaller member states wouldn’t want that as they’d be outvoted by bigger members and thus forced to implement laws that might not even make sense in those (smaller) countries.

That's why federations have a Senate where all states get equal representation.
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