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How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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Post by Aerroon »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #282
rescbr wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is that those marketplaces got too mainstream, and the average consumer is too stupid. 10-15 years ago if you were importing stuff from China you'd know that the trade off for cheaper prices is that you'd lose your consumer laws protection and you'd be on your own. If you wanted those, then you'd go to your local retailer and pay extra.

Means nothing though because no European country can produce the goods an impoverished European can afford to pay for the goods so the local store is just the same Chinese goods shipped to that address other than your home address.

And 5x the price

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Post by Aeolun »

HWR_14 wrote: post #395
gpjanik wrote: post #281

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"people had 1 year to protest this" this is terminal stage subjugation to bureaucrats

How long should we have to wait to hear objections to a rule before we can implement it?

Don’t wait for objections to an obviously dumb rule at all. Save us all the trouble and don’t implement it?

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Post by rdm_blackhole »

giorgosh4 wrote: post #475

Yeah time for EU to change, all these legislation and rules never helped EU to grow. I guess it's up to Gernamy/France to finally figure it out

France is about to have either a very far-right or very far-left president and neither party like the EU very much so I wouldn't count on that.

As for Germany, Mertz is disliked greatly and the AFD will most likely win the next state elections in the east which could accelerate his departure.

Finally Germany and France are both facing many internal issues including migration, debt and low economic growth prospects.

All of this to say that change will not come from there.

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Post by timmmmmmay »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #484
FpUser wrote: post #456

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You're replying to a comment that proposes a market-based solution. Shipping has externalities. Those externalities should be included in the cost of shipping. Then the market will make the right decision.

Every time I see somebody make an argument about "externalities" it's never actually backed up with any fact-based analysis about the magnitude of them. It's always exclusively vibes-based, "this thing you like is too cheap, it should be prohibitively expensive to make up for the thing I just thought of"

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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Post by Aeolun »

akie wrote: post #294
formerly_proven wrote: post #267

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It's yet another EU regulation that requires a rep for each EU country or you're not allowed to do business. EU single market is a bad joke at this point.

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They manage to do it for 50 states in the US just fine. It isn’t exactly rocket science. It’s just that individual countries in Europe all feel like unique little snowflakes.

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Post by uehdheb »

deno wrote: post #322

If you actually sell electronics you also need to register for electronic recycling (WEEE or equivalent) in each member state you sell to and the costs are even greater than PPWR costs alone. Probably 5x more at least.

Yea. My guess is that the people complaining now are not in compliance with current regulations as well

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Post by drnick1 »

mstaoru wrote: post #190

I don't know if this EU regulation will work or not (most likely not), but I can share how it is done in China (where package volume is orders of magnitude higher). China identifies "choke points" most packages pass: large platforms and logistics companies. Yes, Chinese e-commerce is more centralized on Alibaba/JD/PDD etc, but there are actually much more logistics companies in China than in EU. They also do not intr…

> Could EU just ask DHL/Hermes/whatever to charge an additional €1 "for recycling"? Yes, but...

The biggest problem in Europe is the obsession with taxes. Tax on recycling, tax on AI, tax on this, tax on that. So people who want to make money and keep it without having to fight absurd amounts of regulation and red tape just go elsewhere.

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