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Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by plutomeetsyou »

yoz-y wrote: post #111
pelagicAustral wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is bad news for Mediatek and Qualcomm. And good news for everyone else.

Yes and no. Having more competition in the space is excellent news. However I am sad that the world interdependence is eroding as most other countries seem to sit on their hands and happily outsource every bit of manufacturing to a single country.

Countries and institutions should always produce things where they are excellent at producing, in forms of specialization and compete in terms of comparative advantages.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by StilesCrisis »

cyp0633 wrote: post #154
strictnein wrote: post #82

Missing the most important metric: processing power per watt. I have some server CPUs laying around that can also beat Apple CPUs. But putting them in a compact, densely packed, sealed box (aka a phone) would result in a fireball and almost no battery life.

some chinese youtubers have posted their test results, seems pretty good, but the devices have been provided to them in advance fwiw

I'm sure it benchmarks well, but does it actually have good battery life?

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by warkdarrior »

Alien1Being wrote: post #120

Xiaomi also make amazing cars. "WSJ I Test Drove a Chinese EV. Now I Don't Want to Buy American Cars Anymore. https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/chinese-ev-test-drive... "

That journalist may not want to buy American cars, but thanks to our enlightened government, they must buy American cars, since everything else is taxed significantly or banned altogether. Free market for all! /s

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by dymk »

plutomeetsyou wrote: post #191
yoz-y wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and no. Having more competition in the space is excellent news. However I am sad that the world interdependence is eroding as most other countries seem to sit on their hands and happily outsource every bit of manufacturing to a single country.

Countries and institutions should always produce things where they are excellent at producing, in forms of specialization and compete in terms of comparative advantages.

That depends on if everybody gets along and is willing to trade

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by burnte »

booi wrote: post #123
jinzo wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This thread is the perfect example of useful idiots with astroturfing. This is a CPU core designed by UK company (and owned by Japanese) made in Taiwan on equipment made in EU (with non trivial USA components). Xiaomi here is the easiest to replace in this chain (and the Chinese have very much tried to replace any of the others, failing for now). Yet they are angling for a huge PR win.

ARM is merely an IP portfolio licensing company. They don't really design or build anything. And everyone uses TSMC (who uses ASML). The primary design is still being done by Xiaomi, that's the most unique part of this build. Stop downplaying how big of an achievement this is.

They license the IP that they design. They design complete chips you can buy and go right to tape out with no changes if you want.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by kridsdale1 »

plutomeetsyou wrote: post #191
yoz-y wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and no. Having more competition in the space is excellent news. However I am sad that the world interdependence is eroding as most other countries seem to sit on their hands and happily outsource every bit of manufacturing to a single country.

Countries and institutions should always produce things where they are excellent at producing, in forms of specialization and compete in terms of comparative advantages.

This is true until you add a layer of geopolitics to your analysis.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by warkdarrior »

brcmthrowaway wrote: post #153
romanovcode wrote: post #149

Good. Competition is great for consumers.

If China has technological superiority to the US in every facet of science and engineering, is that really good for us though?

That's fine, US can export movies and alfalfa.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by bee_rider »

Apple is the least interesting company to compare against. They are in their own MacOS/iOS software ecosystem, which you want if you want and you don’t if you don’t. Not to be dismissive of either side of that, there are legit reasons to stay in or out of Apple’s ecosystem. But benchmarking points is not a reason anyone would switch operating systems, right?

What OS will these chips run and what is the competition on that platform? He makes a lot of comparisons to AMD and Intel in the post, why not benchmark against them?

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by [deleted] »

etse wrote: post #168
cubefox wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not reversing, it's continuing the trend of more and more manufacturing moving to Chinese companies. It already happened to TVs and it's currently happening with RAM.

By Chinese company, do you mean Taiwan is Chinese in the same way China is Chinese?

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