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Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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This is still an ARM C1-Ultra. Same one used in Mediatek dimensity 9500, which also got more than 4000 points in GB6 lab test. But actual results inside phone with smartphone cooling and wattage requirement became close to 3300. But perhaps the most important thing, Xiaomi is now able to make chip similar to Mediatek. They are the third largest Smartphone manufacturer by shipment volume. And they are still growing. T…

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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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It's not reversing, it's continuing the trend of more and more manufacturing moving to Chinese companies. It already happened to TVs and it's currently happening with RAM.

By Chinese company, do you mean Taiwan is Chinese in the same way China is Chinese?

No. The problem is that TSMCs new capacity is already hogged by AI peddlers for years to come (in fact, AI BS is the reason why these new non-Taiwanese fabs got the massive US and EU subsidies), and so everyone else not flush with cash from the AI hypetrain has no alternative than to go to China - and deliver all their secrets to the CCP.

And eventually, just like the Western solar, battery, pharma and car companies all have learned, the CCP will use that knowledge to surpass and undercut everyone else.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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This is still an ARM C1-Ultra. Same one used in Mediatek dimensity 9500, which also got more than 4000 points in GB6 lab test. But actual results inside phone with smartphone cooling and wattage requirement became close to 3300. But perhaps the most important thing, Xiaomi is now able to make chip similar to Mediatek. They are the third largest Smartphone manufacturer by shipment volume. And they are still growing. T…

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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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This site is just crazy pro-china now. Guess that happens when non-westerners dominate online, sadly.

Have you considered that china has been working on these things for the past decade and they're finally getting results out of that?

And yes, it is known that they do steal tech as samsung discovered in their tech preview phone bust in korea.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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> This is bad news for Mediatek and Qualcomm. And good news for everyone else.

Yes and no. Having more competition in the space is excellent news. However I am sad that the world interdependence is eroding as most other countries seem to sit on their hands and happily outsource every bit of manufacturing to a single country.

I think describing what's happening "other countries seem to sit on their hands and happily outsource every bit of manufacturing to a single country" is disingenuous. It's been dubbed China Shock 2.0 and it's being taken very seriously by the EU. The US admin is a joke and too busy shooting itself in both feet to have coherent policy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Shock_2.0

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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This site is just crazy pro-china now. Guess that happens when non-westerners dominate online, sadly.

I don't see any editorializing, mostly just reports that China is actually competing well.

Whether you're for or against China, seeing that they're outperforming or performing close to American-owned chipmakers seems like very relevant information.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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> I can feel the scores of messages being sent to the federal government from lobbyists saying what a threat Chinese hardware is to national security. The motivation for such messages may be greedy, but it doesn't mean the facts aren't wrong: 1. As a practical matter, no one can audit systems so thoroughly to determine a system built by an adversary won't act adversarially. 2. Free market incentives work counter to n…

Can we audit American corporations?

If you are an American company US backdoors are annoying but hard to avoid given the government will find ways to compell access anyway. Adding potential avoidable foreign back doors does not improve your security.

I wouldn't tell a Chinese company to buy from Cisco. I wouldn't tell an American one to buy from Huawei.

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