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Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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They probably have though.

Seems like we're doing fine though, yeah?

When I look at the state of software engineering, "fine" is not the word that comes to mind https://xkcd.com/2030/.

If we're going to be the last generation that understands code at this level, we need leave it in a much better state before we die.

Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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And math skills are going to collapse from calculator reliance.

This is the same kind of analogy people make when they "poo-pooh" any sort of technological advance, especially with AI.

"Oh, that old simple device didn't displace anything, so this one which is now quickly taking over every job will be just like that simple one". So I guess people today know how to sew and knit and bake bread?

"Oh, humans were always needed, so it'll be the same this time." Is that true of horses and oxen after cars and tractors were invented?

Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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And math skills are going to collapse from calculator reliance.

Not really the same, since your average calculator doesn't take over executive function. The user thought and decided what needs to happen, down to one extremely well-specified task, which is so unambiguous that it can be completed by rote and without context.

This is more like paying someone else to read your math homework, generate answers, and maybe even submit them on your behalf. If that had been the (average) student experience, math skills really would have collapsed.

Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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And math skills are going to collapse from calculator reliance.

That's a very good point. People don't pull out their calculator in the grocery store to do analysis of unit costs or whatever, it's too much of a hassle for that small kind of analysis. But calculators have robbed us of the need to be good at doing that math in our heads. So the math doesn't get done.

Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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And math skills are going to collapse from calculator reliance.

This is exactly the right analogy. Granted LLMs are a more sophisticated calculator and engineering is still adapting to this wonky/evolving technology. But to pretend it's a coming catastrophe is to ignore every past parallel development - where this has not happened.

Math skills are at their lowest point ever in modern society, and many are still advocating for the reduction in reliance on calculators for this reason.

https://ivyleaguecenter.org/2024/03/12/over-reliance-on-calc...

Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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Coders should be treated as as well as as other software users. Tools like Claude code, Antigravity, and others are applying AI to solving that problem.

I know how to create a multi year P&L projection from scratch. It gives me some insight into how much capital a startup will need to get to breakeven. A good AI tool that creates that same spreadsheet in minutes should also be able to explain why different businesses have different shaped cash flow troughs. I don't think people using tools like that is bad even if they don't gain deep insight.

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