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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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M5 (iPad) AnTuTu: 3.5 million XRing O3 AnTuTu: 5.5 million --- M5 iPad Geekbench Single-Core: 3,556 M5 Max Geekbench Single-Core: 4,300 XRing O3 Geekbench Single-Core: 3,945 --- M5 iPad Geekbench Multi-Core: 15,285 M5 Max Geekbench Multi-Core: 29,200 XRing O3 Geekbench Multi-Core: 15,221

I dont think Geekbench is a good cross-platform benchmark, given what it measures

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Man I forgot about that nonsense. I can’t imagine any self respecting person picking one up.

Still a massive market looks like.

Last i read most of the money came from people not reading the fine print on their $100 deposit and only a few thousand have actually been distributed.

Looking now I see maybe tens of thousands of open orders still

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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> I could see a dude in Ukraine having exactly the same perspective vis-a-vis Russia in 2013, and look how that turned out. Nobody in Ukraine who wasn't already explicitly pro-Russian thought that in 2013, did they? Russia-aligned individuals poisoned the third president of Ukraine during his presidential campaign, very likely with direct assistance. You'd probably have to go back to Leonid Kuchma's term to find aver…

> You'd probably have to go back to Leonid Kuchma's term to find average Ukrainians not profoundly concerned about Russia, and that was a relative high point. You're being too literal. I'm sure Ukrainians weren't actually so stupid as many Americans can be. My point is you could transplant that logic (elevate individual, myopic interests and gripes; lose sight of the community you're part of), into a situation that w…

I am observing that it is a bad analogy.

China is not a threat to the daily life of individual Americans in the way Russia has always presented a threat to Ukrainians.

China isn't even a threat to the the daily life of individual Americans in the way that Russia was (and arguably is)

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Sad thing is that it'll still be running the damn Android and so JVM not C or Swift on the machine.

What's the point of the complaint? Is there anything better that is commercially viable? Your Linux based dream phone is not going to sell more than 10 units.

I believe the comparison is with iOS not Linux. Android is Linux after all. It’s just that most programs don’t get to run a that level of abstraction, and instead run on top of a jvm. At least in iOS the code does seem to be able to be more efficient due to to higher usage of natively compiled code, which is what I think the op was complaining about.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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I wonder if the Trump T2 phone will get this chip.

Man I forgot about that nonsense. I can’t imagine any self respecting person picking one up.

It's a U24 Pro - somebody compared them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ytw85Npt8

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> I can feel the scores of messages being sent to the federal government from lobbyists saying what a threat Chinese hardware is to national security. The motivation for such messages may be greedy, but it doesn't mean the facts aren't wrong: 1. As a practical matter, no one can audit systems so thoroughly to determine a system built by an adversary won't act adversarially. 2. Free market incentives work counter to n…

To make conversation productive, please define "national security" in this case. For example, if China can't install its hardware in Pentagon, why is it a threat to national security. On the other hand, if you say, Intel will be in trouble because of these chips, then I would say, so what? Wasn't this a dream of MBAs, educated by the top US schools, to outsource everything in business to cheaper service providers (e.…

"To make conversation productive, please explain how outsourcing your strategic industry and know-how to geopolitical rivals and enemies is a threat."

You have a funny definition of "productive".

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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And everybody forgets the true power of Apple: scale. Can that supposed miracle chip be readily found in million of phones within 6 months? Or will Xiaomi keep selling 90% of their phones with 2 year old chips, reserving these chips to their 2000$ foldables? This post serves Xiaomi because it implies competitiveness when the reality on the ground will remain unremarkable, and it helps fearmongers because they can lat…

When I buy my phones I do not give a flying fuck about "scale". All I care is what do I get for my pesos from various offerings.

What you get for the money IS scale.

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And on iOS? (Also I'd recommend https://libredirect.manerakai.com/ )

I can install Firefox (and Chrome) extensions with the Orion Browser. It‘s developed by Kagi https://orionbrowser.com/ I also installed uBlock Origin on Orion, which works quite well on iOS

I have no luck with most of the extensions installed to Orion.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Also, who decides which entities are adversaries? I don't personally consider "China" my adversary. As an American who has to deal with US companies, many of them are far more antagonistic to me than a foreign country 10K km away. If "China" decides it doesn't like me, my life really isn't going to change much. If my electric company decides it doesn't like me, I'm in big trouble.

You don't consider them your adversary, while they strong-arm your corporations to invest in China [1] instead of your own country (this becomes "we have to manufacture in China, we don't have the capability here!"), destroy your corporations through espionage [2,3], or through subsidy-enabled dumping prices and preferential treatment [4,5], extract groveling apologies from your firms [6], operate literal police stat…

>[1] instead of your own country (this becomes "we have to manufacture in China, we don't have the capability here!"), destroy your corporations through espionage [2,3], or through subsidy-enabled dumping prices and preferential treatment [4,5], extract groveling apologies from your firms [6], operate literal police stations on your soil [7], and turn your countries into subordinate receivers of orders [8,9].

As a Canadian, I am going to be honest and say that I thought at first you were describing the United States of 2026.

I mean, we have a much better opinion of China. As does almost the entire world. For extremely good reason.

There is one country bombing endless nations, stealing resources, engaging in sea piracy, undermining democracies, trying to destroy the West, and so on, and it is the United States of America under a juvenile halfwit self-dealing shitbag pedophile, working on behalf of an utterly deranged group of kleptocrats.

Seriously, Americans can do this chickenshit nonsense, but you are the worldwide problem.

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