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Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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Are engineers still making 100s of thousands a year still just for vibe coding while a nurse and other skilled / highly trained medical professionals working their butt off make half of that? Do we think there is going to be a correction for the vibe coders? Pardon I know such question is controversial but thinking ahead.

I think nurses in the Bay Area make like 200k a year

Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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post #5

Are engineers still making 100s of thousands a year still just for vibe coding while a nurse and other skilled / highly trained medical professionals working their butt off make half of that? Do we think there is going to be a correction for the vibe coders? Pardon I know such question is controversial but thinking ahead.

The effort/pay ratio never made sense though.

Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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And math skills are going to collapse from calculator reliance.

Math skills had never anything to do with arithmetic. Maybe Ramanujan discovered a couple of theorems by dealing with numbers themselves. That is it.

Online discourse though is collapsing under dumb AI talking points.

Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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post #6

And math skills are going to collapse from calculator reliance.

Actually, they have for a large majority of the population. And fun fact: that debate is still going on, and the Mathematical Association of America (MAA) enacted a rule prohibiting calculator use in AMC.

https://ivyleaguecenter.org/2024/03/12/over-reliance-on-calc...

Math fosters critical thinking, and we've been in a critical thinking deficit for decades and decades. I don't think we can afford to sink even deeper...

Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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I'm also concerned about people asking an opaque machine for an answer and stopping there instead of going to different sources, evaluating their credibility, exercising their own ability to construct their own worldview from disparate facts and opinions.

Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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I learned BASIC, Pascal and x86 Assembly language by the age of 14-15. None of which I remember (nor care to). The strict instructions (aka language) we gave the compiler was not the point. Those experiences taught me how to think logically, and over time develop a taste/structure for how software should be built, as well as foot guns to avoid. I don't know how you teach that without coding, but the "coding expertise…

We don't teach kids math with access to calculators, and so on. Making students code by hand at first is a very moderate proposition

Re: Coding expertise is going to collapse from AI reliance

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They probably have though.

Seems like we're doing fine though, yeah?

Could be a doing a whole lot better. Do you think there's an abundance of critical thinking in society? Because math skills aid in that.
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