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Re: A website for debloated open source alternatives

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Some of the information on there is useful, but I'd say that alternativeto.net is an almost perfect example of a bloaty & hostile website. OP's website is much more pleasant.

Alternativeto was a site I used to frequent, but after their redesign, it’s been pretty painful to use and a lot less valuable.

SaaSHub founder here. Have you tried https://www.saashub.com? It has both "open-source alternatives" and "EU Alternatives".

Re: A website for debloated open source alternatives

#104

Not able to access the site on Firefox "Error Code: SSL_ERROR_INTERNAL_ERROR_ALERT"

Why does it have almost 400 upvotes, while it's serving an up to date cert signed by Certificate Authority expired in 2024 ? Do people really ignore such issue and click through warnings so easily?

It would be better to have a pure http site, instead.

Re: A website for debloated open source alternatives

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FWIW, this site is fast, works perfectly with a text-only browser, e.g., links (1.4MB static binary), elinks, or without a (bloated?) browser, e.g., retrieve all the pages, catenate and read as a single HTML file or convert it to, e.g., SQL, CSV or a plain text file All the /p/ URLs are in the sitemap, all the site's pages can be retrieved over a single TCP connection https://debloat.dev/sitemap.xml This, i.e., retri…

I about to splutter that 1.9MB is a huge sitemap, but it's 12kB. Do you mean crawling the entire sitemap and concatenating the results is 1.9MB?

> retrieving all 200 /p/ URLs over a single TCP connection […] results in a 1.9MB HTML file

That is exactly what he said, yes.

Re: A website for debloated open source alternatives

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I think it's just a pretty consolidated space? Kind of like ebook management, which was dominated by Calibre for so many years (this changed recently). But unlike ebooks, media centre management is a fair bit more complex since it involves supporting many different media formats and many forms of acceleration or transcoding. So the big projects - Kodi for local media and Jellyfin for streaming - have a lot of inertia…

It’s not that difficult to be honest. VLC / ffmpeg can do most of the heavy lifting. And there’s no shortage of libraries for rendering in a UI. There used to be dozens of options to choose from. Multiple different XBMC forks. Multiples different Subsonic forks. Multiple different DNLA servers. Multitudes of web-based servers. CLI MP3 servers. Independent media centres for a variety of different consoles. Maybe that’…

> Multiple different XBMC forks. Multiples different Subsonic forks. Multiple different DNLA servers. Multitudes of web-based servers. CLI MP3 servers.

Big difference between _audio_ streaming and _video_ streaming servers. Video streaming is much more complex and pretty consolidated, as I mentioned.

Audio streaming is much more manageable: no issues with transcoding, acceleration or subtitling, and a radically simpler UI. Also ID3 tags aren't great but they're a pretty universal standard with lots of databases, you don't need to desperately scrape IMDB/TMBD for info.

As a result there are quite a few music servers, often exposing Subsonic compatible APIs, ranging from the minimalistic to the 'I'm trying to do everything Spotify does'.

Re: A website for debloated open source alternatives

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post #104

Not able to access the site on Firefox "Error Code: SSL_ERROR_INTERNAL_ERROR_ALERT"

Why does it have almost 400 upvotes, while it's serving an up to date cert signed by Certificate Authority expired in 2024 ? Do people really ignore such issue and click through warnings so easily? It would be better to have a pure http site, instead.

It loaded for me

Re: A website for debloated open source alternatives

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I think it's just a pretty consolidated space? Kind of like ebook management, which was dominated by Calibre for so many years (this changed recently). But unlike ebooks, media centre management is a fair bit more complex since it involves supporting many different media formats and many forms of acceleration or transcoding. So the big projects - Kodi for local media and Jellyfin for streaming - have a lot of inertia…

What did the ebook space change into?

Until a year ago, it was either Calibre/CalibreWeb, Audiobookshelf, or a few alternative readers heavily focused on comics.

Late last year, a vibe-coded app called BookLore appeared and basically brought over everything Calibre did but with much better UX and e-reader integration. The original dev crashed out[0], but the community picked up the project and started reigning in the worst of the slop and maintaining it as Grimmory [1]. It's pretty damn good.

There is also a book fetcher called Shelfmark [2] that integrates with Calibre, ABS, or Grimmory.

[0] and he _might_ be currently trying to push another even more vibe-coded competitor, but that's unconfirmed drama

[1] https://github.com/grimmory-tools/grimmory

[2] https://github.com/calibrain/shelfmark

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