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#72Anthropic’s issue is churn because of the peak verbosity vomit coming out of Opus 5/Mythos/Fable. What the hell did they train it on. The sane model is still Opus 4.6.
There's actually a tool called vomit [1] of all names to fix exactly what what is being discussed here.
Re: Anthropic's best AI model struggles to attract users as cheaper tools thrive
#73Perhaps nerfing the cap out of your best model for press attention and hosting valuable features like thought traces isn’t such a great business model?
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And they've hobble Fable and Opus so hard with their safety guardrails, I ask innocuous questions and tasks and they get flagged so often I gave up on it. I can get all the work I need done in GPT5.5 or 5.6 without the hassle. I just kept a $20 plan going for use on my phone.
I had Fable bail on me because I used the word autopilot on a project. Changed to something unrelated, and off we went.
I haven’t hit the Fable guardrails a single time after substantial usage. And I’m working on a ML project (a game AI).
I don’t doubt people are hitting it… shrugs
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#75I've always wondered why everyone flocks to SV's latest darling company. Have we not learned from our history of glorifying these SV darlings that turn hostile?
A mixture of opportunistic edge-seeking, FUD, FOMO, novelty-seeking, the need to impress shareholders, the tendency of salespeople to believe other salespeople are telling the truth, the ever-present need to stay in front of relentless commodification, and pragmatic curiosity.
TBH I don't think any of that is unique to the IT industry's relationship with the Valley. Other technology-driven industries have a similar worship-ish relationship with a few rarified businesses. But the culture of the IPO exit accelerates all the most short-term motivations to do anything.
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#76Fable is just way too expensive and limited compared to GPT 5.6 Sol, and the only task that requires that level of intelligence is frontier scientific research. I use GPT/Codex primarily for coding and usually keep Claude on Sonnet 5 most of the time as I use Claude primarily to debug/brainstorm/make frontends as a supplement to GPT.
I do not agree. Fable is the only model I can leave unattended and give me results for part of my work which is just devops related tasking. I can hand hold opus but I would rather just ask fable to do it and give me the result that I review and works. Opus will waste tokens and still require me to help nudge it in the right directions. I think the next gen models from china will put us in a spot that the cost can pl…
I second the parent comment. 5.6 sol xhigh is not only better than fable I can also run it forever without worrying about limits. The frontend has gotten much better too with the plugins that come with codex.
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#77Fable is not a tool for the average user. It’s a professional tool for highly complex work. I would compare it to a extremely high end $15k PC, or an expensive pro-grade video camera, or a freight train, or a … I would say at least 95% of the global population will not encounter a situation once in their life where it would be actually useful/warranted.
I wish Fable were as good as you make it sound. A plan created by Fable is good, but in my case, it always contain issues caught only when it's reviewed again (whether by itself, Opus, Sol etc.). That's (almost) not different from plans created by Sol, GLM 5.3 etc. The one thing where it's genuinely better is the front-end, but then again it's far from perfect, it just needs less iterations.
Fable does far better at considering the whole picture, weighing options, and making suggestions during architecture or refactoring discussions.
It’s more reliable and makes less dumb errors than Opus.
It still messes up, of course. But for my working style, I definitely prefer it.
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#78In my opinion, the big issue with Fable is that Claude Code cannot use it properly. I know, that sounds weird, but I've had Fable run down the wrong lane (and never stop) or give up and claim that something was impossible so many times (until I pointed at a GitHub repo that solves the "impossible" issue). But a while ago, I had access to a Fable harness that just never gives up. And that verifies itself. It burned $1…
It kind of has the personality of those students that get so stuck on one promising idea they lose sight of the problem.
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#79Every software engineer in my company uses Claude code heavily. However we’ve never enabled Fable and only use Opus, Sonnet and Haiku. Nobody has complained and seems like for every use case we have Opus is more than powerful enough, especially with Opus 5
> Every software engineer in my company uses Claude code heavily.
I find it funny how OpenAI got caught lacking for a very brief window, but it turned out to be a very critical turning point.
Like a guy that that's at the top of their game the entire year, and the one day they have the flu, the CEO does a surprise performance review.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had Fable bail on me because I used the word autopilot on a project. Changed to something unrelated, and off we went.
I haven’t hit the Fable guardrails a single time after substantial usage. And I’m working on a ML project (a game AI). I don’t doubt people are hitting it… shrugs
Yeah same. Multiple 20x max accounts, I typically hit > 50% of the fable usage limit on eace, literally never seen a guardrail. Maybe I’m boring? Maybe they have some kind of account reputation system?