Off-topic and may be found rude - I find multiple instances of "Kahn" in the comments. Is it really that difficult to put in the effort to learn the correct spelling of "Khan" specially when it is everywhere in TFA, the post title, and other comments?
Why Sal Khan't: On Learning by Making but Teaching by Telling
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Re: Why Sal Khan't: On Learning by Making but Teaching by Telling
#42Is the article about something else than how math on Khan Academy was thaught? I remember minimal videos (3-13 min, usually 5-8), and then exercises drilling the techniques until you understand it and don't make mistakes. If you got a perfect score (no mistakes whatsoever), you went a little faster. That's learning by doing, or am I wrong? Or are there no exercises for things other than math?
Sounds like you should read the article if you have questions about what the article is about?
Re: Why Sal Khan't: On Learning by Making but Teaching by Telling
#43Is the article about something else than how math on Khan Academy was thaught? I remember minimal videos (3-13 min, usually 5-8), and then exercises drilling the techniques until you understand it and don't make mistakes. If you got a perfect score (no mistakes whatsoever), you went a little faster. That's learning by doing, or am I wrong? Or are there no exercises for things other than math?
You are wrong in understanding the article. Khan: Videos + rote exercises Learning: Projects, complex problem-solving, exploration, argumentation, etc. Dewey is worth reading.
Recall practice IS learning. Projects, exploration, and discovery-based "learning" sounds great in theory but in practice, without actual testing, really doesn't live up to the hype.
Adam Boxer is worth reading.
Re: Why Sal Khan't: On Learning by Making but Teaching by Telling
#44Off-topic and may be found rude - I find multiple instances of "Kahn" in the comments. Is it really that difficult to put in the effort to learn the correct spelling of "Khan" specially when it is everywhere in TFA, the post title, and other comments?
Re: Why Sal Khan't: On Learning by Making but Teaching by Telling
#45Re: Why Sal Khan't: On Learning by Making but Teaching by Telling
#46Off-topic and may be found rude - I find multiple instances of "Kahn" in the comments. Is it really that difficult to put in the effort to learn the correct spelling of "Khan" specially when it is everywhere in TFA, the post title, and other comments?
Re: Why Sal Khan't: On Learning by Making but Teaching by Telling
#47Overall, I do agree with the thesis but: > Now… how does Sal Khan want my kid to learn? > Watch a video. I find this a little uncharitable. I learned a lot of math at a young age from Sal Khan's early videos (back when he used to erase by switching to a black pen and scribbling across the entire screen) and, to put it in the author's terms, it served as an easy-to-digest scaffolding on top of which to build a deeper…
I am having my kids learn math with Kahn academy if we don't have anything better by that point.
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#48Re: Why Sal Khan't: On Learning by Making but Teaching by Telling
#49Here's a presentation that, kind of claims the opposite. More specifically, it claims figuring it out on your own is not as good as having a teacher tell you, and then having you use the info, and it claims to be backed up by research
Re: Why Sal Khan't: On Learning by Making but Teaching by Telling
#50Maybe we should focus only on having AI for the correcting/internalizing part instead? A purely deterministic grader and problem creator creates an endless stream of problems and solutions. The LLM's job is just to help you get to the point that you can assign a random problem from this problem set and the student will be able to answer it without assistance. Hopefully the teachers lecture at the beginning of class helped with understanding as well (I suspect that it would), and also provides a more broad "theory of mind" about what we are doing than the myopic LLM's "Let's get you solving this problem" does. Also, humans are social creatures, and being taught by another human being (even if it were less efficient) is likely beneficial to most people.
tldr; Normal human teacher, deterministic grading to gauge progress, and LLM assistants to help the student get to the point that they can pass the deterministic grading.