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Post by pmontra »

dismalaf wrote: post #69
chimpontherun wrote: post #32

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I find it amusing that the biggest supporters or Russia in its current war of aggression against Ukraine are/were Hungary, Slovakia, and Serbia -- precisely the countries that should know better, since they were the principal recipients the "love and friendship" from Russia: - Hungary: November of 1956 - Slovakia: "spring" of 1968 - Serbia: the Stalin's betrayal at the end of WW2

A lot of Eastern European countries have oligarchs who largely made their fortunes with help from the Russians. In Czechia one such example is the prime minister Andrej Babiš, who was a bureaucrat in a state owned business who then sold it to himself in the 90s (with the help of some "Swiss" money) and became a billionaire. He's consistently been as pro-Russia as he thinks he can get away with (the positive is that C…

And maybe they mistake current Russia for a communist country? It has every single ingredient of Stalin's Russia except the pretense of socialism or communism.

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Post by codedokode »

Animats wrote: post #62

> the cameras expose live streams to anyone without a password and who knows their broadcasting IP. Are these cameras in use in Russia? Can people outside of Russia look in at Russian traffic in this way?

There is a small number of cameras which broadcast the video publicly. For example, Moscow: [1] (Taganskaya square), [2] and Saint-Petersburg: [3] (Nevsky prospect and Gostiniy Dvor). Sadly the quality is not great and in reality those places look much better. For example, many of the small 2-floor buildings on Taganskaya square are over 100 years and have a nie classical architecture but one cannot see any fine details in the camera view.

[1] https://gidcam.ru/camera/moskva-panorama-centra-stolicy-s-ma...

[2] https://gidcam.ru/camera/moskva-volgogradskij-prospekt-i-plo...

[3] https://camguide.net/ru/europe/russia/saint-petersburg/nevsk...

Re: Slovakia finds Russian backdoor in traffic speed cameras

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Post by pacija »

koonsolo wrote: post #94
fallingbananna wrote: post #91

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It's rooted in the education system to this day. The majority of school teachers grew up under the Soviet side of cold war propaganda. And in history education in particular, we are told that "we" have always looked towards Russia as a role model, to fight Hungarian nationalism (since the country was just part of Hungary for most of its history).

That is possible, but I also see people who used to be very anti-Soviet, now to be anti-EU and anti-Ukraine. It's kind of like they hated Russia in the past, but now are convinced that EU and Ukraine are worse. When in the past they would claim that the Soviet times were bad, now they would claim that it wasn't that bad in the end. That is of course because of all the horrible things that are happening in EU, like ga…

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Re: Slovakia finds Russian backdoor in traffic speed cameras

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Post by dismalaf »

pmontra wrote: post #101
dismalaf wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of Eastern European countries have oligarchs who largely made their fortunes with help from the Russians. In Czechia one such example is the prime minister Andrej Babiš, who was a bureaucrat in a state owned business who then sold it to himself in the 90s (with the help of some "Swiss" money) and became a billionaire. He's consistently been as pro-Russia as he thinks he can get away with (the positive is that C…

And maybe they mistake current Russia for a communist country? It has every single ingredient of Stalin's Russia except the pretense of socialism or communism.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7632057

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-says-communism-comes-bible-co...

It doesn't matter what Russia actually is. They play both sides with their propaganda. Old people who thought positively about communism still support Russia.

Fico and Babiš for example were both communist party members and both pro-Russia politicians today.

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Post by pvaldes »

What's the purpose of this? Opening a way to make the cameras going rogue and starting to fine everybody in a particular period of time to create massive discontent, administration chaos, and unrest? maybe just before an election? Aren't this cameras connected with some government computers?

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Post by dgellow »

pacija wrote: post #103
koonsolo wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is possible, but I also see people who used to be very anti-Soviet, now to be anti-EU and anti-Ukraine. It's kind of like they hated Russia in the past, but now are convinced that EU and Ukraine are worse. When in the past they would claim that the Soviet times were bad, now they would claim that it wasn't that bad in the end. That is of course because of all the horrible things that are happening in EU, like ga…

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The EU doesn’t have an army, wtf are you talking about. The military buildup is a very recent trend, a reaction to Russia war on Ukraine

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Post by KronisLV »

pacija wrote: post #103
koonsolo wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is possible, but I also see people who used to be very anti-Soviet, now to be anti-EU and anti-Ukraine. It's kind of like they hated Russia in the past, but now are convinced that EU and Ukraine are worse. When in the past they would claim that the Soviet times were bad, now they would claim that it wasn't that bad in the end. That is of course because of all the horrible things that are happening in EU, like ga…

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I live in the EU, particularly in the part that Russia is looming over, Latvia.

I'm quite glad that we're not a part of Russia, where even queer people are considered extremists and critiques of the illegal war will either carry a prison sentence or being conscripted to sent to the meat grinder. The human rights situation doesn't seem perfect ofc, but that's mostly cause of right leaning views being prevalent.

I also believe that we'd probably benefit from more militarization, not less - investment into drone technology so borders and such could also be patrolled more easily to prevent or limit things like this https://www-lsm-lv.translate.goog/raksts/zinas/latvija/11.08... as well as just having a stronger NATO as a deterrent.

The push for things like Chat Control sucks and it's very easy to imagine how it will get misused, should our governing structures be compromised by a sufficiently totalitarian regime or ideology.

At least over here people still carry the memory of the Soviet deportations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_deportations_from_Latvi...

Re: Slovakia finds Russian backdoor in traffic speed cameras

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Post by kakacik »

toasty228 wrote: post #85
chimpontherun wrote: post #32

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I find it amusing that the biggest supporters or Russia in its current war of aggression against Ukraine are/were Hungary, Slovakia, and Serbia -- precisely the countries that should know better, since they were the principal recipients the "love and friendship" from Russia: - Hungary: November of 1956 - Slovakia: "spring" of 1968 - Serbia: the Stalin's betrayal at the end of WW2

Older people in these countries have good memories of that time, employment and housing were basically a given, healthcare and public transportation were solved, etc. They're very easy to manipulate, promise them a 13th month of pension and they'll vote for you. I don't think you understand how bad globalization fucked up these countries, people live with their parents until they're 30+, young people can't find decen…

No, globalization gave them as a nation a chance and they mostly didn't do any serious effort to use that. Its 1000 little decisions here and that that led to some post-soviet-sphere countries to thrive, while others stumble and generally gain prosperity mostly from being dragged into it via EU membership. Ie specifically Slovakia is / used to be a big car factory for whole EU due to low salaries. Not really something to build long term success on, ie if Ukraine would join EU all of those foreign factories would move even further east.

Sure, we can blame politicians which were mostly bad to worse and stole everything that was previously state-owned (meaning everything). But folks kept voting for them in similar fashion you describe so this is the result, its trivial to 'buy' votes with relatively low budget. I mean current PM has very tight and visible connections to Italian 'Ndrangheta mafia, he or people around him did a contract murder of reporter looking into that. He didn't ever faced jail and is back being PM like there is no tomorrow. There is only so much blame one can point outwards, you can't be dumb / do dumb shit and expect long term marvels of prosperity on Switzerland's level.

Lived in both of those countries, and they look exactly as they should given overall population efforts towards hard work, honesty, rule of law and so on. If US would be a nation of slackers and thieves it would also look very differently to how it is.

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Post by drysine »

chimpontherun wrote: post #32
gumby wrote: post #16

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I find it amusing that the biggest supporters or Russia in its current war of aggression against Ukraine are/were Hungary, Slovakia, and Serbia -- precisely the countries that should know better, since they were the principal recipients the "love and friendship" from Russia: - Hungary: November of 1956 - Slovakia: "spring" of 1968 - Serbia: the Stalin's betrayal at the end of WW2

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