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Post by sora2c0314 »

schafberg wrote: post #120
flaburgan wrote: post #73

Is there a comparison of harness somewhere? Like, the same prompt to the same model, but with different harnesses, and comparing the quality of the results. I am trying to run as much as possible only on free software, so I always only used Zed plugged with anthropic models, but I am wondering what is the quality of Zed harness compared to the one of claude code or pi or others... I would love some feedback.

I want to have the same thing, but tbh it's too complicated with so many configuratios and plugins. I doubt if any comparison of harness make sense now and can be applied in real coding works.

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Post by powerapple »

mcculley wrote: post #325
Sha1rholder wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Aren't there reasons to avoid the scrutiny that might accompany bypassing the Great Firewall? One of the reasons to bypass GFW is to avoid scrutiny. > Doesn't this create a chilling effect? It doesn't. > Or are you claiming that it has zero effect and citizens of China have zero concerns about using websites and speaking freely? Not “zero”, maybe like “0.01”? Better use an anonymous account if you want to criticize…

This has not been my experience working with Chinese citizens. They are mostly very aware that they cannot speak freely.

I have been on Douyin a lot, there is a lot chat rooms for people to debate politics, so it is a 50/50 divide for opinions (for and against). Many of them will say 'China sucks, and US rules'. People learn a way to speak avoiding keywords, if you are not careful, you get kicked out of the chat. Many of them you can tell are against the government, but these are not ordinary people, they probably don't work, and spending most of their time online talking about politics.

Re: DeepSeek Harness developer preview

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Post by allarm »

mickeyp wrote: post #284
allarm wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoting it in full so you don't stealth-edit your comment: I'm glad they're doing this also and that more people are adopting it. Event sourcing [0] is the right way to represent informaiton like tool calls, user interactions, etc. --- it makes it easy to fork conversations and maintain a cohesive conversation stream and stable message history that does not break the cache. why dont you mention that its your site ins…

There's no pretension. It's mine.

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Re: DeepSeek Harness developer preview

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Post by udntknow »

Sha1rholder wrote: post #332
mcculley wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has not been my experience working with Chinese citizens. They are mostly very aware that they cannot speak freely.

> They are mostly very aware that they cannot speak freely. That's correct, and as I said that's one of the reasons Chinese people bypass GFW. The last paragraph in my previous comment may not have been clear enough. What I meant was that *after bypassing GFW*, you generally have minimal concern, not *before bypassing GFW*

As a Chinese person, I acknowledge that there are restrictions on what can be said, but every country has its own limitations, doesn’t it? Overall, I don’t believe that freedom of speech is heavily restricted in China. Politics is quite distant from the lives of ordinary people, isn’t it?

Re: DeepSeek Harness developer preview

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Post by esinecan »

tianyicui wrote: post #119

Hi I'm one of the authors of DeepSeek Harness. It's just an early developer preview version we're presenting in MIT license currently. Expect lots of rough edges and compatibility-breaking changes. Any feedback and suggestions are more than welcome!

My question is: it's awesome thank you.

Re: DeepSeek Harness developer preview

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Post by mcculley »

udntknow wrote: post #344
Sha1rholder wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They are mostly very aware that they cannot speak freely. That's correct, and as I said that's one of the reasons Chinese people bypass GFW. The last paragraph in my previous comment may not have been clear enough. What I meant was that *after bypassing GFW*, you generally have minimal concern, not *before bypassing GFW*

As a Chinese person, I acknowledge that there are restrictions on what can be said, but every country has its own limitations, doesn’t it? Overall, I don’t believe that freedom of speech is heavily restricted in China. Politics is quite distant from the lives of ordinary people, isn’t it?

No. For example, the U.S. has many problems and I would never say it is ideal, but I can openly disagree with the President or the majority party. My understanding is that this is not as easy for citizens of China inside China. Can you openly discuss the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests?
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