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To become a better writer, read as much as you can

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Re: To become a better writer, read as much as you can

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As in all art, the first step is to develop good taste. And you can only do that by consuming a wide variety of content.

I doubt it's as simple as that. I mean we're talking about a kind of cultivation of the self, acquiring a higher way of seeing. I suspect that some kind of destruction of the old way of being is called for to arrive at this higher state.

Via some kind of disaster maybe. Or a long erosion. Maybe drugs.

Re: To become a better writer, read as much as you can

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I regular question experts. I literally walk up to them and ask how they get that go and every single time the "trick" has been an approximation of "I do this a lot" and by a lot they mean more than everybody else.

If you didn't watch Kung Fu Panda then it is worth it to learn what the "secret" is all about.

TL; DR: yes and it works for everything else too. Just do the thing!

Re: To become a better writer, read as much as you can

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> I often catch myself imitating the flow, style, Its a struggle trying to "imitate the style" in writing. In music, you could keep playing all the songs in the style of your favorite artist and possible develop a close stylistic proximity to what you're imitating but in writing do you just write prose with the same wordings? i get the keep reading to develop your style but feels like adapting a style you want to mas…

I think the issue here might be that you're familiar with what "style" is supposed to be in music, so you know how imitating it would look (rather, sound) like. On the contrary, you may have no idea what style means in the context of writing, so you can't fathom what imitating writing style looks like. I honestly don't know precisely either, but a couple of things to mull over: Clarke and Asimov are said to have a "d…

Very interesting. Yes - the way the narrative is constructed is probably more accessible to understand.

Re: To become a better writer, read as much as you can

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This used to be true because most published books were well written. I don't think that's true anymore. Too much noise and too little signal so to speak. I feel a growing trend where books read like the author's main inspiration is TV shows, down to villains surprising the main character by jumping out from "behind the camera" and dialogue that reads like the book has no ability to convey thoughts and emotions except…

There are more written books that a regular person can read in their entire life. Even if what you say is true, no need to only read modern books.

You are correct but there must surely be good modern books too. Problem is finding them.

Could also be an unavoidable effect from reading many books I guess, the more you read the harder the competition is for the next book.

Re: To become a better writer, read as much as you can

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I feel that people today are already overwhelmed by walls of text. Books are a completely different cognitive load for the brain. A book is a gym workout. Social media and news feeds are lazy reading.I try to read more myself, but specifically books.

Agreed. And reading is not an unalloyed good. We squat over our fetish and acquire a bit of a hunch.

200 years of pro-reading propaganda may have bent our opinion. Once upon a time reading was considered a morbid activity. And it kinda is.

Re: To become a better writer, read as much as you can

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I have an even better golden rule: to become a better writer, actually write as much as you can. A real example. I read A TON, since I was a kid (I'm close to 50 years old now). I used to write a lot. I even wrote two semi-decent novels, among other things. I haven't written much in the last 10-12 years. Now I want to start a little side project, in which I will write a letter to about one hundred people, print it an…

Yesterday I saw this tweet on twitter: https://x.com/ksw_arman/status/2091201471773614095

> 80% of personal websites only have a single blog post from two years ago where the author mentions they want to write more

I laughed when I saw it because that describes my blog that I started this year after not blogging for 15 years. It has a single post about how I want to write again to counteract all the AI that I use day to day, so stay tuned. I have rough ideas for posts I've been wanting to write for a while.

But man do I have a hard time writing one of those posts. It's so open-ended. I'll start writing something and it doesn't feel right. I know I should blow through the feeling and at least get my thoughts down, but I've become more sensitive to not feeling early progress. Like a noob learning a guitar or not being able to ollie.

I didn't have that problem at all back when I wrote daily.

Re: To become a better writer, read as much as you can

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Both reading and writing are necessary, but writing alone is not sufficient.

Yes, but there's a significant asymmetry with the advice usually given. I hear "Read a lot" about 10x more than "Write a lot". I've been reading a lot for decades. I'm a crappy writer. There is a saturation point.

The point OP misses and apparently everyone here does too, is that if your goal is to become a better writer, you should absolutely read, but read with conviction to learn what makes a good or a bad book. You are not reading it for pleasure at that point. An Uber driver who drives a bus every day of his life is not necessarily better than someone who (a) is more skilled naturally and (b) deliberately practices for much shorter times to become a better driver. How is it any different here?

Cal Newport touches this in his books. The best solo violinists dont practice any longer or harder than the other violinists, they practice deliberately and that looks very different.

So in summary I think OP is pretty wrong. Asking people to just read more without adding this nuance is just going to create a bunch of zombies who read a novel a week and are none the better for it.

The only books that are required reading if youre planning to write are "on writing" by King and Strunk n White. Just memorize the latter. Then read your competition, carefully. Then just start writing.

Re: To become a better writer, read as much as you can

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> I often catch myself imitating the flow, style, Its a struggle trying to "imitate the style" in writing. In music, you could keep playing all the songs in the style of your favorite artist and possible develop a close stylistic proximity to what you're imitating but in writing do you just write prose with the same wordings? i get the keep reading to develop your style but feels like adapting a style you want to mas…

"Style" is complicated to copy in both cases if you don't know what you're looking for. In music, you have voicing sparsity, changes in voice count, preferred pitch ranges, tension/release cadences, embellishments, richness, playfulness, and a host of other characteristics. Rachmaninoff, for example (among other things), favours active, moving octaves quite deep in the base, extremely rich chords in the middle treble…

Very cool analogy with Rachmaninoff. The quirks are the differentiator and its important to recognize these deliberate choices you point out and it's not just a checklist. (Note to self to annotate more and deliberately study/reflect on those annotations to understand that construction/quirk)

Re: To become a better writer, read as much as you can

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Good writing. Maybe I am too used to OREO format, where point is made, example given, and point re-iterated in tech or non-fictional format unlike the author's more of story-based narrative.

The author seems to be branch off to a polymath path, consuming ideas from many different fields. A caution is that, the author needs to plan on what to learn and set scope and boundary on how much to learn in each field (unless you are Leonardo Da Vinci, who still struggled in some fields. He was damn smart but his ADHD stopped him from building something even better in some instances).

Anyways, fun writing.

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My anecdote: The more I read, the more I see the context of why authors write certain things based on events, and political affinity s/he had.

I started converse with books and see points that are not right per my understanding or mis-represented. Now we can use AIs, or Google, or search books to verify author's assumptions. The authors points might have had been true at the time but not at current point.

It's just fun to gather more insights on how to think as I read more.

I emphathize with the author's enthusiam.

I used to write blogs, but not any more as I stopped reading for awhile during covid time (bad instances even with 3 shots of vaccines).

I am starting again, surely but slowly, and I cannot make an excuse as the author mentioned as my daily phone screem daily time is 2+ hours.

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