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Re: Show HN: Make your logo extra bright on HDR screens

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Post by Retr0id »

Grombobulous wrote: post #73
illiac786 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I own an HDR screen to display HDR content *when and where I want it*. It has significant value in photography for example. But I certainly don’t want to be looking at hdr ads.

How can we expect to give out a technical ability like HDR but then gatekeep it to only “artistically-valid” endeavors? Who is the arbiter of taste? Ultimately, you choose what websites you go to, just like people who create websites choose how to present them.

We gave websites the ability to auto-play audio, then they showed they couldn't be trusted with this privilege and we took it away again. We can do the same with HDR images, gating them behind a "click to view", or "allow this site to display HDR content" (plausibly someone could do this with a browser extension already)

Re: Show HN: Make your logo extra bright on HDR screens

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Post by IshKebab »

Grombobulous wrote: post #73
illiac786 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I own an HDR screen to display HDR content *when and where I want it*. It has significant value in photography for example. But I certainly don’t want to be looking at hdr ads.

How can we expect to give out a technical ability like HDR but then gatekeep it to only “artistically-valid” endeavors? Who is the arbiter of taste? Ultimately, you choose what websites you go to, just like people who create websites choose how to present them.

There's a pretty simple solution - gate it on full screen mode.

Re: Show HN: Make your logo extra bright on HDR screens

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Post by solarkraft »

Grombobulous wrote: post #75
hombre_fatal wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Impressive, wrong on both counts. (1) HDR display (e.g. you bought a macbook/iphone) doesn’t mean you want random videos in the instagram feed to be full brightness despite setting your screen brightness to minimum in a dark room and (2) reducing white point just darkens stuff across the display, it doesn’t disable the thing people are complaining about.

I just figured out that low power mode also disables HDR and that’s a one-click toggle. So to me the user has an off switch and the content creator also gets to express their creative freedom to use the feature or not. If you don’t want to see HDR content you can do something else with your day. Nobody is holding us hostage to use our phones in a dark room or scroll Instagram.

iOS does not have this switch and it’s a pretty common platform. Low power mode also disables other things. You can of course do what you want with your creative freedom, you’ll just have to live with peoples’ reactions for non-consensually showing them something they passionately do not want to see.

Re: Show HN: Make your logo extra bright on HDR screens

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Post by Grombobulous »

solarkraft wrote: post #86
Grombobulous wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just figured out that low power mode also disables HDR and that’s a one-click toggle. So to me the user has an off switch and the content creator also gets to express their creative freedom to use the feature or not. If you don’t want to see HDR content you can do something else with your day. Nobody is holding us hostage to use our phones in a dark room or scroll Instagram.

iOS does not have this switch and it’s a pretty common platform. Low power mode also disables other things. You can of course do what you want with your creative freedom, you’ll just have to live with peoples’ reactions for non-consensually showing them something they passionately do not want to see.

I just disagree with this concept of “non-consent” in this context.

This would be like buying a color TV and getting upset that the commercials don’t remain in black and white, and saying you didn’t consent to that.

But unlike in the color TV analogy we have two methods of disabling (low power mode and reduce white point setting) and we don’t just have 3 TV channels to choose from.

I will definitely concede that the browser and OS should have more controls around this feature.

Re: Show HN: Make your logo extra bright on HDR screens

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Post by Grombobulous »

Retr0id wrote: post #81
Grombobulous wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can we expect to give out a technical ability like HDR but then gatekeep it to only “artistically-valid” endeavors? Who is the arbiter of taste? Ultimately, you choose what websites you go to, just like people who create websites choose how to present them.

We gave websites the ability to auto-play audio, then they showed they couldn't be trusted with this privilege and we took it away again. We can do the same with HDR images, gating them behind a "click to view", or "allow this site to display HDR content" (plausibly someone could do this with a browser extension already)

I’d certainly be happy to see more controls in the browser side to help control this.

I personally don’t consider this anywhere near as problematic as auto-play audio, but I recognize that that’s subjective.

Re: Show HN: Make your logo extra bright on HDR screens

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Post by Retr0id »

Grombobulous wrote: post #88
Retr0id wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We gave websites the ability to auto-play audio, then they showed they couldn't be trusted with this privilege and we took it away again. We can do the same with HDR images, gating them behind a "click to view", or "allow this site to display HDR content" (plausibly someone could do this with a browser extension already)

I’d certainly be happy to see more controls in the browser side to help control this. I personally don’t consider this anywhere near as problematic as auto-play audio, but I recognize that that’s subjective.

Auto-playing audio used to be fine too, it took a while for certain websites to learn how annoying they could be with it - give HDR some time!

Re: Show HN: Make your logo extra bright on HDR screens

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Post by Grombobulous »

Retr0id wrote: post #89
Grombobulous wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d certainly be happy to see more controls in the browser side to help control this. I personally don’t consider this anywhere near as problematic as auto-play audio, but I recognize that that’s subjective.

Auto-playing audio used to be fine too, it took a while for certain websites to learn how annoying they could be with it - give HDR some time!

I’m starting to wonder if this is a good idea for a Safari browser extension (if that’s something that can be controlled that way)
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