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Re: ElevenLabs, TwelveLabs, ThirteenLabs

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Post by Gareth321 »

grensley wrote: post #71
Illniyar wrote: post #62

https://41labs.ai/ I think this is the most obviously AI designed website I have ever seen. From the nonsensical logo, the bland generic design language, overlapping support chats to mix and match of different landing page patterns. Misaligned avatar circles.

I think the logo is pretty nifty actually. It's both "41" and "AI"

Yeah I guess I'm AI because I like it.

Re: ElevenLabs, TwelveLabs, ThirteenLabs

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Post by zachthewf »

sph wrote: post #76
possibilistic wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of them copied 15.ai ElevenLabs was a commercial version of 15.ai. It's crazy, because 15.ai could have had the venture-scale outcomes if he'd fundraised and turned it into a SaaS product. He was in the right place, right time, with tremendous attention, but missed the opportunity. The other "labs" followed the trend. The {number}labs / {number}.ai domains all quickly got squatted. I was in the same space and wat…

I literally have no idea if this is parody.

Nope, not parody. Very accurate description of early-2020s consumer TTS websites.

Re: ElevenLabs, TwelveLabs, ThirteenLabs

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Post by possibilistic »

narrationbox wrote: post #74
possibilistic wrote: post #39

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I wasn't after them, I just changed my product's name. They had monumentally better distribution. I launched as vo.codes (and two prior names) before 2020 and later rebranded to FakeYou. https://thenextweb.com/news/celebrity-voices-deepfake-ai-app Rebranding a domain with traction is a mistake, in retrospect. I think Magnific is learning this lesson now after undergoing a change from the popular FreePik. I'm a filmma…

Are you still working on it?

I found my way to where I want to be.

I'm working on https://getartcraft.com which is open source:

https://github.com/storytold/artcraft

We're in use by a few film studios and some pretty popular AI artists. There are a couple of theatrical releases coming out that use us, but I can't talk about it. (Under NDA for the individual projects.)

It's at $5M ARR and growing 65% month-on-month by word of mouth.

ArtCraftX (launching soon) is a new UX that lets you bring your own compute from every single platform and vibe code your own workflow UX. You can clone the repo and easily add/remove things you want. It's okay that people can bring competitor compute - we'll be generous and open.

https://artcraftx.ai/

Think of it as "ComfyUI, but comfortable" and geared to high-volume creators rather than hobbyists. It's written in Rust.

Critically, people should be able to not only own their apps, but be able to deeply customize them.

I've also built an open source FAL/OpenRouter which I eventually want to build RunPod/Featherless (fine tunes) features into. It's called "Foundation", and it's in private beta but launches GA soon. I think it could have good positioning vs. Stripe / OpenRouter since it's open source and is meant to be extensible. Fully BYOK, too.

I'm looking to hire someone to help me build a social layer for creators that ties all of this together. YesAnd got funding to pursue this, but I think they're taking the wrong approach. I think it should be open and hackable. More like Github, but still artist friendly.

A lot of platforms either target B2B enterprise (Runway, Krea) or UGC / "everyone can be a creator" (Higgsfield, OpenArt), but I think creators look more like the Github set. Intentional, and in need of tools they own.

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