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Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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post #239

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> I don’t think either of us is going to change the other’s mind, so I’ll leave it here. So so so disappointing.

Keep the argument going if you can! He didn’t boycott USA when we bombed him. What’s gonna convince him? Maybe someone has the words.

Serbia deserved it for the genocide they were perpetrating.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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post #231

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Unfortunately, paying money to an economy of a country which started and still wages an unprovoked war against another country, killing civilians indiscriminately, is a choice. The only reason you can "focus on building great software" is because you are not in Ukraine, where Russian bombs paid for by the aforementioned Russian economy would be falling on your head. Not to mention the problematic nature of trusting a…

I actually do know what it’s like to have bombs falling on my head. I lived in Serbia during the US-led bombing in 1999. I continued using US company products during and afterward, and eventually moved to the United States, while many of my fellow countrymen drew a line similar to yours. I never felt that companies or individuals elsewhere owed me a boycott on my behalf. That experience shaped my reluctance to treat…

What is it with Serbians and always supporting war crimes and genocide? Serbia deserved to be bombed (and more), your argument does not work.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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post #392

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I actually do know what it’s like to have bombs falling on my head. I lived in Serbia during the US-led bombing in 1999. I continued using US company products during and afterward, and eventually moved to the United States, while many of my fellow countrymen drew a line similar to yours. I never felt that companies or individuals elsewhere owed me a boycott on my behalf. That experience shaped my reluctance to treat…

What is it with Serbians and always supporting war crimes and genocide? Serbia deserved to be bombed (and more), your argument does not work.

Writing as an internet rando (to another?): please don't make such comments.

Phrasing it as "X deserved to be bombed" is needlessly inflammatory. I agree that something had to be done and that given the choice between inaction like in Bosnia and the NATO intervention like we for Kosovo, I'd easily pick the latter. It's even plausible that the NATO intervention was close to the best that could be done and any harm was a "necessary evil". However, saying that the civilian population of the undemocratic Yugoslav state deserved to have their lives disrupted by being bombed (or worse??) is just cruel.

I don't think your comment will convince the previous poster or (most importantly) unrelated third parties.

(For the record: the implicit comparison between the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and the NATO intervention in Serbia, by the previous poster _is_ IMO deeply dismaying.)

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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I can still read most paywalled articles by either blocking JS or digging into the HTML source code. I wish the browser could handle this issue by wgetting the source and decoding it without giving away any information about the visitor

The browser already handles this: Activate reader mode.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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post #200

Everyone hate paywalls, ads, and aggregators. So what business models are even left? Are we just going to have patron supported echo chambers and propaganda from now on?

> So what business models are even left?

Maybe they can take a hint from Spotify?

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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post #54

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If I could wave a magic wand, I would implement this like some kind of token replenishment or quota system like every IP address gets to access old dot like a very low number and if you log in with the same IP address you get more quota or replenished a little faster if you also come in with no auth like from a private window. Of course, in an ideal world we wouldn't have to do anything like this but yes, regional is…

Is that trickery NAT, network address translation? It is a pretty widespread technique I think, we’d have run out of ipv4 addresses a while ago without it.

Yes, it is called carrier grade nat but the problem is you can't assume that an IP address maps to a user or even a household neatly. That's the problem.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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The one thing I find slightly grating about links to Kagi blogs is the top comments are almost always "I use Kagi and it's great!" rather than about the content of the blog. And I'm a happy Kagi subscriber! I get that this is an option, but what it really shows to me is how broken the model for journalism is. In my view you almost always only get good-quality journalism if you pay for it. (Somehow - e.g. the BBC is p…

> The one thing I find slightly grating about links to Kagi blogs is the top comments are almost always "I use Kagi and it's great!" Couldn't agree more. I don't know how others perceive it, but I find myself becoming more and more wary of broad endorsement. Maybe it's the amount of astroturfing you see on the internet, but I can't help imagine if there is a concerted effort behind it. When someone shares something m…

I get the same feeling with this sort of thing. I did try Kagi and stuck with it for the last year. It's pretty good, but not without it's faults.

- Out of the box, search result quality is comparable to Google

- Search is slow. Latency for most queries is about a second. Sometimes 3 seconds. Google is shockingly fast in comparison.

- Personalized results is a killer feature (blocking, boosting and suppressing domains)

- There is no iOS app. Only one in beta that is seemingly abandoned.

- Their site/app design is just passable at best

- Their AI quick answers give solid answers and are pretty concise

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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I thought the Kagi API was entirely pay-as-you-go. EDIT: I see I have $5 of "pre-paid API credit". Is this a one-time thing or is that included with my plan?

I also see $5 API credits. I would also like to know if this is part of my $10 subscription each month. Edit: this is a one-time promotional credit. One must pay for credits thereafter, in addition to their subscription.

I also confirm the $5 you get is only promotional credit.

I tested on my local LLM chat via Open WebUI, 2 requests from that cost $0.02 (so $4.98 left), and after my monthly Kagi renewal an hour ago, it did not reset, I am still on $4.98.

You are probably better off using Kagi Assistant anyways, as you get $10 there on the $10 Professional plan.

For local LLM web searches, to save on cost I will stick with the Brave Search API which gives you $5 free every month.

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