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Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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I could easily find 5 people who hate SpaceX and yet that wasn’t mentioned as a risk I think you’re going to have to provide evidence that this is a commonly documented risk

"Our AI products and X platform are subject to complex and evolving U.S. and foreign laws and regulations regarding privacy, cybersecurity, data use, data combination, data protection, content, AI, competition, youth protection, safety, consumer protection and notification, advertising, e-commerce, sanctions, export controls, and other matters. Many of these laws and regulations are subject to change and uncertain in…

Thank you. Hopefully a good lesson for the GP to actually read prospectuses before making claims about them!

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

#42

This is a non-story; for those who haven’t read them, prospectuses include every potential risk under the sun. There will be risks that never make the news alongside the exciting backlash.

One risk they should include is: Our vision is working on a product and business model, that if we succeed, will make our business model and product obsolete.

Not a risk.

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Interesting how that whole conversation about "AGI tomorrow" completely disappeared and it's all about making money now. I'm a fan of claude and I have been using their top tier plans because it's so damn cheap comparing to my real usage. They will have to stop subsidizing this at some point, and people (include me) will flee. What they are gonna do? Interesting times we live in.

Sam Altman being like "AGI in " is just sad to listen to now. They don't have it, and never will.

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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I said it [1][2] when OpenAI was supposed to go public "next week" and I'll say it again today: neither Antropic nor OpenAI are going public in the coming few years. The moment they go public is the moment the music stops and everyone who still has their head in the sand realizes that they now can't deny there's no money to make in selling AI models, only money to lose. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=482112…

Anthropic is absolutely going public now that Leopold got taken for a ride and the market is back at its very tip top. There is no other option at this point. It is imminent.

What you get wrong is who the music stops for. It stops for us (retail). They dump their bags and consolidate into a more manageable business in the long run. S&P drops 10% and life moves on in a few years.

I think you’re right about OpenAI though. They got outplayed at every step and wont go public.

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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I'm sure you can find similar stuff in the prospectuses of many controversial companies spanning oil, cigarettes, alcohol, cannabis, adult entertainment, guns, gambling, defense, etc... Anything someone is trying hard to ban.

Why is AI in the category of oil, cigs, and beer? Its software ....

Is your comment meant to be making fun of the people who think AI is doing no harm?

The world is considerably worse because of AI than the effects of beer and cigarettes. No, I'm not joking.

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

#46

This is a non-story; for those who haven’t read them, prospectuses include every potential risk under the sun. There will be risks that never make the news alongside the exciting backlash.

One risk they should include is: Our vision is working on a product and business model, that if we succeed, will make our business model and product obsolete.

I expect this will effectively be stated, that their success will depend on developing a succession of products and evolving the company in response to the market climate.

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

#47

I said it [1][2] when OpenAI was supposed to go public "next week" and I'll say it again today: neither Antropic nor OpenAI are going public in the coming few years. The moment they go public is the moment the music stops and everyone who still has their head in the sand realizes that they now can't deny there's no money to make in selling AI models, only money to lose. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=482112…

Anthropic is absolutely going public now that Leopold got taken for a ride and the market is back at its very tip top. There is no other option at this point. It is imminent. What you get wrong is who the music stops for. It stops for us (retail). They dump their bags and consolidate into a more manageable business in the long run. S&P drops 10% and life moves on in a few years. I think you’re right about OpenAI thou…

Care to explain how this relates to Leopold? I know they hold some stake in Anthropic, but I’m not proficient enough in the topic to jump to the conclusion you’re alluding to.

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Our AI products and X platform are subject to complex and evolving U.S. and foreign laws and regulations regarding privacy, cybersecurity, data use, data combination, data protection, content, AI, competition, youth protection, safety, consumer protection and notification, advertising, e-commerce, sanctions, export controls, and other matters. Many of these laws and regulations are subject to change and uncertain in…

Thank you. Hopefully a good lesson for the GP to actually read prospectuses before making claims about them!

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Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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I said it [1][2] when OpenAI was supposed to go public "next week" and I'll say it again today: neither Antropic nor OpenAI are going public in the coming few years. The moment they go public is the moment the music stops and everyone who still has their head in the sand realizes that they now can't deny there's no money to make in selling AI models, only money to lose. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=482112…

I rather think OpenAI will never get there. I think the AI industry desperately needs one of the two to get to IPO for its own sense of identity, though; the morale boost and the presumption of validation are crucial at this point. I think it’s possible that the remaining power of the delusion gets Anthropic to IPO.

Lol nobody's buying the BS.

It is all about greater fool theory now. The substance OAI and Anthropic had is gone.

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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I said it [1][2] when OpenAI was supposed to go public "next week" and I'll say it again today: neither Antropic nor OpenAI are going public in the coming few years. The moment they go public is the moment the music stops and everyone who still has their head in the sand realizes that they now can't deny there's no money to make in selling AI models, only money to lose. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=482112…

++ I don't know if they will never go public,but their business is clearly not profitable as it is today. I'm a heavy user but the moment they stop subsidizing I will pick something else because I know how damn expensive it actually is (my usage is ~4k usd/month, but paying 200 in their max plan). I guess lot of people will do the same.

The funny thing is the govt would prob prefer all the resources were concentrated (e.g. across MSFT and Alphabet) rather than diversified across many firms in a head to head fight vs China.

So therefore theres no argument to keep anthropic and OAI afloat if they cannot do so on their own.

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