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Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by esseph »

dofm wrote: post #123
esseph wrote: post #76

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> Scared me. Literally too weird to keep. I tore up the page. ??????

Genuinely unsettling. Can’t even begin to explain why. Like a terrifying glimpse into how fragile our grasp of reality is. Because whatever it is I wrote down wasn’t my dream, it was something my dream self thought profound or important. Nearest I can say to how unsettling it was is to nudge you towards the video of the angry cockatoo who doesn’t want to go to the vet. Everything he says sounds just like it’s on the…

This sounds like a basic LSD experience tbh :)

Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by alain94040 »

user43928 wrote: post #400
tlkn_bot_praxis wrote: post #258

I've been stuck in loop all week where a coworker asked me to review some methodology documents that are clearly generated by Claude (which is fine in this case) but every time I sit down my brain can't get through 2 sentences without feeling like I'm reading nothing. It actually feels like the content, which isn't empty, has no meaning. So I go on to another assignment and come back later and the same thing happens.…

I don't want to read my own Claude outputs, much less someone else's. If I had to, I'd process it into a short summary and/or ask an agent questions I have about the methodology. I would then give my feedback. If they ask for details, I can have my agent update the document directly too. I would not treat an AI generated artifact, be it documents or code, as something that a human should process fully manually.

Agreed, what I call "have your AI talk to my AI" [1]

I think that's where the future is going. It presents interesting challenges, but also some opportunities to make life better for everyone.

[1*] https://foundrs.com/have_your_ai_talk_to_my_ai.html

(*) I dislike the HN trend of starting citations at 0, I find it snobbish.

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Post by backlava12 »

chrisbrandow wrote: post #187

I've had the same trouble with AI tech docs, and I struggled to articulate it. There is something difficult about trying to point to the specific "problem" with a given document

I feel this so very much. There is so much AI produced documentation and design docs at my job that look passable at the surface but are deeply flawed in ways that are difficult to articulate. It makes it difficult for me to convey to management how incredibly flawed the way our team is using AI is. Not to mention that it takes mere seconds to produce a document that has surface plausibility but would take hours or days for me to properly "debunk" it.

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Post by tsss »

davidgh wrote: post #43

My son is currently learning Romanian and I was trying to help him with verbs. I don’t know Romanian but recalled when learning a foreign language for the first time it really helped me to break down how a verb form or tense worked in English, then learn the equivalent in the new language. So I wanted to make some charts and pages that he could use as learning resources. I used Claude to help. I don’t know how to qui…

Seems to me that Anthropic has done too much training on Hegel and Adorno books.

Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by tsss »

davidgh wrote: post #99
mattbruv wrote: post #81

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> I wish there was a name for this situation. It’s almost like a pseudo-language where it has the correct form and presentation but is missing critical components. Bullshit?

I understand the sentiment, but not quite what I’m thinking. It’s not that the AI is necessarily wrong, it’s more like, it replaces clarity with rich but unhelpful text. Maybe like candy. Full of flavor, texture and color but lacking the nutrients.

In German we call this "Hegelei". Using a lot of fancy words and complex sentences to obscure how little content they have.

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Post by watwut »

davidgh wrote: post #43

My son is currently learning Romanian and I was trying to help him with verbs. I don’t know Romanian but recalled when learning a foreign language for the first time it really helped me to break down how a verb form or tense worked in English, then learn the equivalent in the new language. So I wanted to make some charts and pages that he could use as learning resources. I used Claude to help. I don’t know how to qui…

> I wish there was a name for this situation

Bad writing. The name is simply: bad writing.

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Post by tokai »

To me AI text is only for the consumption of other models. Reading it is like is like tapping into the circuitry on a motherboard to read what the PC is doing.

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Post by ragequittah »

sophrosyne42 wrote: post #286
ragequittah wrote: post #94

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I wonder if you went back before we had any idea how the brain worked and talked to the smartest people about how neurons work (without giving away that it's a human brain) then asked them all "would such a system be intelligent?" how many would say yes. The main problem I have with people stating it's not intelligent or conscious is I don't think we even have a good definition of either word that satisfies everyone.…

The definition issue cuts both ways. It is just as much an issue for those insisting that LLMs are intelligent/conscious in some way.

Agreed. All I can say is the conversations I have with AI and the things it's able to do for me are more useful than most any human I've come across. Whether that's 'intelligence' or not is a moot point to me. Consciousness is an interesting debate only because, similar to the natural world, if we declare something like "fish aren't conscious / don't feel pain" that then creates a real problem for the fish if we're wrong.

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Post by ndriscoll »

skydhash wrote: post #480
ndriscoll wrote: post #455

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Not that I'm a professional mathematician, but I'm not seeing why people think definitions are somehow a blocker. LLMs have no issue making definitions (interfaces/traits/abstract classes) in programming, which is formally the same activity. I ask them to form a core "spine" of a program (basically an intelligible theory), and they do it really well. Like when we had these recent counterexamples to various conjecture…

> LLMs have no issue making definitions (interfaces/traits/abstract classes) in programming, which is formally the same activity. I ask them to form a core "spine" of a program (basically an intelligible theory), and they do it really well. Is it a "standard" software? Something where the patterns exists in several other software? Try with something that is novel, or is in a limited set. You will find that it will co…

Maybe, but math also has reusable techniques and patterns. c.f. https://www.tricki.org/

The goalpost moving is really getting absurd, to the point where now the machine needs to be a world-class once-a-century genius that invents entire new fields out of thin air (which are of course still relevant to humans) for it to be "intelligent". Meanwhile a well above average human struggles to even apply trivial definitions to particular problems (c.f. programmers that don't understand monoids).

Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by senderista »

At least when it comes to code comments and error messages, I have found that Sol produces substantially better prose than Opus 5 (sometimes literally 10x more terse for the same prompt). When I use Opus 5 for coding, I will often give Sol a prompt like this, and it works quite well:

Review changes in the current working tree for comments and error messages that are verbose and excessively detailed, and make them more concise while still informative and accurate. Do not hesitate to delete comments altogether if they are not helpful.

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