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Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Post by bragr »

dofm wrote: post #8
1123581321 wrote: post #2

This is a non-story; for those who haven’t read them, prospectuses include every potential risk under the sun. There will be risks that never make the news alongside the exciting backlash.

“Everyone hates us and the very fundamentals of what we are promising, will fight to prevent us establishing infrastructure, may pass laws to limit our activities in their states, and will extend that hatred to our major investors, potentially materially damaging their businesses” is not a common thing in an IPO prospectus, I imagine, for quite obvious reasons. But that is the gist of the situation is it not? If it’s…

I'm sure you can find similar stuff in the prospectuses of many controversial companies spanning oil, cigarettes, alcohol, cannabis, adult entertainment, guns, gambling, defense, etc... Anything someone is trying hard to ban.

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Post by dofm »

jmalicki wrote: post #15
dofm wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Everyone hates us and the very fundamentals of what we are promising, will fight to prevent us establishing infrastructure, may pass laws to limit our activities in their states, and will extend that hatred to our major investors, potentially materially damaging their businesses” is not a common thing in an IPO prospectus, I imagine, for quite obvious reasons. But that is the gist of the situation is it not? If it’s…

Uber and Airbnb both had similar risks in their S1s, for obvious reasons.

I was thinking maybe Uber but I was not sure it could have been that bad. They would have had states pushing back but against a very popular product with users.

But Airbnb, good point: they would have talked about the risks of states curtailing their businesses.

It’s still a very unusual level of hatred, I would say.

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Post by dofm »

cavem0nkey wrote: post #17
jmalicki wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uber and Airbnb both had similar risks in their S1s, for obvious reasons.

And both have been damaging to society. And are getting fined and chased out of certain countries. Why would you throw investment in this unless you’re just leveraging the growth in the time it takes for regulatory issues to appear? Which is terribly unethical. Wall to wall bastards. I’d rather die poor than contribute to the further decline of society.

They have but this reply was a fully fair answer to my point; perhaps there are more.

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Post by newsomix9xl »

bragr wrote: post #21
dofm wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Everyone hates us and the very fundamentals of what we are promising, will fight to prevent us establishing infrastructure, may pass laws to limit our activities in their states, and will extend that hatred to our major investors, potentially materially damaging their businesses” is not a common thing in an IPO prospectus, I imagine, for quite obvious reasons. But that is the gist of the situation is it not? If it’s…

I'm sure you can find similar stuff in the prospectuses of many controversial companies spanning oil, cigarettes, alcohol, cannabis, adult entertainment, guns, gambling, defense, etc... Anything someone is trying hard to ban.

Why is AI in the category of oil, cigs, and beer? Its software ....

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Post by paul7986 »

uejfiweun wrote: post #4
jqpabc123 wrote: post #3

negative sentiment towards AI and data centers will be listed as a risk factor The fact that the technology can "hallucinate" and is unreliable is not just a "sentiment" --- it is a well established fact. And it is more than a risk, it is virtually guaranteed to happen if you use it repeatedly. Calling it "sentiment" is like an "alternative fact".

...what? I don't think they're talking about hallucinations here, they're talking about public opinion.

Tell that to graphic designers as do you think that's a career a student going into college should pursue? Same with web design and web development (AI companies now are trying / working on shifting us away to less screens/more voice).... like would you tell a freshman in college to pursue those degrees vs. medical stuff and or skip college altogether, rather pick up tools to help build those data centers?

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Post by jmalicki »

dofm wrote: post #22
jmalicki wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uber and Airbnb both had similar risks in their S1s, for obvious reasons.

I was thinking maybe Uber but I was not sure it could have been that bad. They would have had states pushing back but against a very popular product with users. But Airbnb, good point: they would have talked about the risks of states curtailing their businesses. It’s still a very unusual level of hatred, I would say.

Uber called out that they were aggressively doing an end run around both taxi licensing AND minimum wage laws and facing significant pushback on both fronts, among many other risks.

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Post by cavem0nkey »

dofm wrote: post #22
jmalicki wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uber and Airbnb both had similar risks in their S1s, for obvious reasons.

I was thinking maybe Uber but I was not sure it could have been that bad. They would have had states pushing back but against a very popular product with users. But Airbnb, good point: they would have talked about the risks of states curtailing their businesses. It’s still a very unusual level of hatred, I would say.

I think there’s a genuinely huge divisive opinion on AI companies. We don’t see this due to our particular industry echo chambers but really the majority of society has bigger problems and this offers them no solutions and threatens to take their lifelines away.

Divisive technology leads to hate. Flock as well which is an us and them. Same mindset.

We are not as popular as we think we are. I know which side of the fence I want to be on.

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Post by bragr »

newsomix9xl wrote: post #24
bragr wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you can find similar stuff in the prospectuses of many controversial companies spanning oil, cigarettes, alcohol, cannabis, adult entertainment, guns, gambling, defense, etc... Anything someone is trying hard to ban.

Why is AI in the category of oil, cigs, and beer? Its software ....

Social media and gaming companies probably have it too

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Post by iLoveOncall »

I said it [1][2] when OpenAI was supposed to go public "next week" and I'll say it again today: neither Antropic nor OpenAI are going public in the coming few years.

The moment they go public is the moment the music stops and everyone who still has their head in the sand realizes that they now can't deny there's no money to make in selling AI models, only money to lose.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48211272

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48358945

Re: Anthropic IPO filing will show AI backlash as a risk factor, sources say

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Post by dofm »

jryle70 wrote: post #20
dofm wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Everyone hates us and the very fundamentals of what we are promising, will fight to prevent us establishing infrastructure, may pass laws to limit our activities in their states, and will extend that hatred to our major investors, potentially materially damaging their businesses” is not a common thing in an IPO prospectus, I imagine, for quite obvious reasons. But that is the gist of the situation is it not? If it’s…

"Everyone hates us but they can't have enough of us. Our revenue can't stop rising" Anthropic's credit line is now $10B - [0], and the IPO is expected to beat or match SpaceX - [1] [0] https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/anthropic-p... [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-20/anthropic...

Not what we are discussing.
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