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Re: ElevenLabs, TwelveLabs, ThirteenLabs

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Post by OutOfHere »

Fwiw, ElevenLabs doesn't even make any sense as a firm, considering its TTS offering is extremely overpriced by an absurdly large factor. A large user would be far better off using local models. Even the OpenAI TTS is cheaper. There is no moat here such as with hardware.

Re: ElevenLabs, TwelveLabs, ThirteenLabs

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Post by inigyou »

possibilistic wrote: post #20
WhatsName wrote: post #3

Tried to register sixsevenlabs, too late unfortunately...

All of them copied 15.ai ElevenLabs was a commercial version of 15.ai. It's crazy, because 15.ai could have had the venture-scale outcomes if he'd fundraised and turned it into a SaaS product. He was in the right place, right time, with tremendous attention, but missed the opportunity. The other "labs" followed the trend. The {number}labs / {number}.ai domains all quickly got squatted. I was in the same space and wat…

I got 99 labs but bringing value to society ain't one

Re: ElevenLabs, TwelveLabs, ThirteenLabs

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Post by jrexilius »

inigyou wrote: post #37
possibilistic wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of them copied 15.ai ElevenLabs was a commercial version of 15.ai. It's crazy, because 15.ai could have had the venture-scale outcomes if he'd fundraised and turned it into a SaaS product. He was in the right place, right time, with tremendous attention, but missed the opportunity. The other "labs" followed the trend. The {number}labs / {number}.ai domains all quickly got squatted. I was in the same space and wat…

I got 99 labs but bringing value to society ain't one

well played sir.. well played..

Re: ElevenLabs, TwelveLabs, ThirteenLabs

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Post by possibilistic »

quantumwoke wrote: post #30
possibilistic wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of them copied 15.ai ElevenLabs was a commercial version of 15.ai. It's crazy, because 15.ai could have had the venture-scale outcomes if he'd fundraised and turned it into a SaaS product. He was in the right place, right time, with tremendous attention, but missed the opportunity. The other "labs" followed the trend. The {number}labs / {number}.ai domains all quickly got squatted. I was in the same space and wat…

You were a year behind 15.ai with FakeYou. I know, because I was six months ahead of you and didn't execute in time. Momentum is everything.

I wasn't after them, I just changed my product's name. They had monumentally better distribution.

I launched as vo.codes (and two prior names) before 2020 and later rebranded to FakeYou.

https://thenextweb.com/news/celebrity-voices-deepfake-ai-app

Rebranding a domain with traction is a mistake, in retrospect. I think Magnific is learning this lesson now after undergoing a change from the popular FreePik.

I'm a filmmaker and I wanted to get into video models, and FakeYou felt more like a pivot to UGC video (vo.codes was too audio centric) that I could ultimately swing me into cinematic video. I was too slow and that was not a good choice.

But Higgsfield and Bytedance showed you can be late and still win a lionshare of the market.

My video product launched in February and is at $5M ARR / 67% MoM growth.

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