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Re: The coolest anti-surveillance tools at Defcon [video]

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Defcon was always the most government-aligned conference. Historically, BlackHat was Defcon's slightly more counter-culture counterpart/foil. These days, I don't think anti-establishment hackers have any physical conference gathering.

> These days, I don't think anti-establishment hackers have any physical conference gathering. Wouldn't you be essentially doxxing yourself by attending?

Privacy centric cons allow paying cash at the door. That is maybe the one thing Defcon still gets right.

Re: The coolest anti-surveillance tools at Defcon [video]

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These days, I don't think anti-establishment hackers have any physical conference gathering. Wouldn't you be essentially doxxing yourself by attending?

Privacy centric cons allow paying cash at the door. That is maybe the one thing Defcon still gets right.

Paying cash is nothing compared to all of the cameras installed in and around the location of the con. Which also means nothing towards the hotels definitely not accepting cash unless you're willing to stay at hotel with the working girls and dealers.

Re: The coolest anti-surveillance tools at Defcon [video]

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The "Crypto and Privacy" village at Defcon demands you agree to the privacy policies of Salesforce, Google, Microsoft, and Discord to interact with them. It is a disgrace. Defcon stopped caring about privacy, hacker ethos, and digital sovereignty a long time ago. Go there if you want to talk to their military recruiters or buy/sell proprietary snake oil security SaaS. It is really just another corpocon at this point.…

https://toorcamp.org/

Re: The coolest anti-surveillance tools at Defcon [video]

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The "Crypto and Privacy" village at Defcon demands you agree to the privacy policies of Salesforce, Google, Microsoft, and Discord to interact with them. It is a disgrace. Defcon stopped caring about privacy, hacker ethos, and digital sovereignty a long time ago. Go there if you want to talk to their military recruiters or buy/sell proprietary snake oil security SaaS. It is really just another corpocon at this point.…

Defcon was always the most government-aligned conference. Historically, BlackHat was Defcon's slightly more counter-culture counterpart/foil. These days, I don't think anti-establishment hackers have any physical conference gathering.

BSidesLV is still pretty chill, although it's more focused on cybersecurity professionals than on the hacking side of things.

Re: The coolest anti-surveillance tools at Defcon [video]

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Privacy centric cons allow paying cash at the door. That is maybe the one thing Defcon still gets right.

Paying cash is nothing compared to all of the cameras installed in and around the location of the con. Which also means nothing towards the hotels definitely not accepting cash unless you're willing to stay at hotel with the working girls and dealers.

Agreed. It is simply the one privacy thing they do right.

Re: The coolest anti-surveillance tools at Defcon [video]

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post #18

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They have a sign similar to the ones at stadiums or events that say recording is in progress and that by being there you agree to be recorded... being here means you agree... not that there is any enforcement but very flocky and thus ironic.

That's not Google though?

You have your choice of salesforce, google, or discord to interact with them.

They even virtue signal with their "crypto means cryptography!" sign without actually promoting tools that let people have control of their own keys.

They do not use or support any privacy preserving comms, and thus, they are just yet another surveillance capitalism marketing village.

I actually encourage Defcon attendees to visit the village with context, as it really is a symbol of everything wrong with privacy advocacy in America, and why we are so so so far behind Europe.

Re: The coolest anti-surveillance tools at Defcon [video]

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Partial summary: -ESP32 based device that tries to detect bluetooth/MAC addresses of flock cameras and beeps when it does - a Stingray detector that runs on a second-hand mobile hotspot - a device that alerts you about things that are moving approximately with you (AirTags, SSIDs, etc).

Sigh, researchers used to publish cutting edge stuff. That list reads like a fist year lab schedule. lol =3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBlAMqoJ5BA

It's cutting edge (in the US at least) for citizen activism and individual anti-tracking protection, has to count for something no?

Re: The coolest anti-surveillance tools at Defcon [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sigh, researchers used to publish cutting edge stuff. That list reads like a fist year lab schedule. lol =3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBlAMqoJ5BA

It's cutting edge (in the US at least) for citizen activism and individual anti-tracking protection, has to count for something no?

Voting, and participating locally in policy discussions has far greater traction.

The fact is with satellite to cell service online, there is a far greater risk automotive and civilian telemetry meta-data is collected regardless of what people want or do on the ground.

It is credulous to believe individuals can affect political policy with gadgets. =3

Re: The coolest anti-surveillance tools at Defcon [video]

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I'm not sure I understand Simulacra. I get the idea, just spam devices around the area in hopes you're lost in the crowd. But anything designed to track you is purpose built to handle tons of devices moving about. Maybe if everyone had one in their pocket we could overload the surveillance devices, but at best you're just bloating their logs.

Simulacra is meant to send out signals that look identical to other real signals making it harder to decipher what's real vs what's not. The unique identifiers of those devices show up and never show again once they churn. They have a fresh set of identifiers each time one is produced. Its never going to be perfect but if you can hide the real stuff in a ton of fake stuff it offers a level of obfuscation that otherwise wouldn't be there.
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