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You are wrong and the margins are pretty great on API. Do you want to have a bet when they go public?
I only bet when among friends. Nothing against you, I just do not know you personally. But I am waiting patiently for their S1. It will provide ample entertainment.
GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction
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Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction
#82This is a play to grab market share from Claude, But it seems Claude code is too strong of a brand Until the IT managers and CFOs cut budget hard, Claude will live rent free in heads of all developers OpenAI should attack the CIO and CFOs stat At my company we have unlimited codex and claude, still people stick to gimped claude code
So in other words, right now you have free choice between Claude and Codex and developers are choosing Claude of their own free will, but you want management to come in and force people to use Codex instead? If it’s so much better, developers will switch. Lots of devs at my company have switched recently. But plenty of others have stayed on Claude. I don’t think one is clearly better in every way right now. Or at lea…
For better or worse that really favors Anthropic because they were the first to land these contracts.
Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction
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I’ve been using deepseek and it works great for my problems. An expensive day is when I spend $7 in tokens, and that takes lots of queries. Openrouter doesn’t give you the cache discount I think, which is really important.
That's strange. For Deepseek I burnt through USD 5 on a relatively simple task, in one afternoon. That the simple task took a whole afternoon, a lot of baby sitting, the slowness, and so much money relatively, really shook me to the core.
I’m pretty happy with it, it’s about as good as Gemini flash 3.5, the only other model I have deep experience with.
Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction
#84Are the older models supposed to get cheaper over time or do they stay expensive to encourage people to stop using the old stuff?
Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction
#85This is a play to grab market share from Claude, But it seems Claude code is too strong of a brand Until the IT managers and CFOs cut budget hard, Claude will live rent free in heads of all developers OpenAI should attack the CIO and CFOs stat At my company we have unlimited codex and claude, still people stick to gimped claude code
If developers are choosing Claude when given unlimited access to both, then any executive who tries to force them to Codex is really stupid.
perhaps all the companies should dump teams and use slack.
Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction
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I switch every 6-10 weeks, because there seems to be a material change in model quality. I can understand the fatigue - but as of today, for most thing I would say Sol is better. If the opened up the 1M context in Codex, it would be unrivalled. Enterprise may have a bit more difficulty context switching. Pun intended.
I believe the 1M context window can be configured in Codex (config file edit). The price per token increases when >256k though, but it can be useful when compaction at-that-moment would be detrimental.
Paying per token would cost a grand fortune.
Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction
#87discounting your most valuable model 20% today without a better model in the wing ... pushing your API subscriber base towards a competitor with an exclusive 50%, openrouter, the other day ... slashing paying codex subscriber usage limits to the point that many are cancelling long term contracts they've had with the company ... is altman playing 4d chess or something I'm not aware of? because from the outside, each o…
> without a better model in the wing ... How do you know they don’t? > is altman playing 4d chess or something I'm not aware of? Anthropic just removed a discount on Fable, while people are simultaneously getting sick of reading fable and opus talking about “the load bearing texture” and “color of the blanket”. It’s become excruciatingly painful to read the output during coding sessions. Maybe it’s just good marketin…