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Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very good yesterday, very bad today. I understand completely why nations are not eager to bargain with a petulant child

The problem is more long lasting. The world cannot accommodate 180 degree turns every 4 years in Washington. So anybody that will follow, regardless of the person's policies won't matter fully, as that person itself will be replaced 4-8 years later.

> So anybody that will follow, regardless of the person's policies won't matter fully, as that person itself will be replaced 4-8 years later.

That is the fundamental problem. The only way out, is to make changes to the constitution to specifically prohibit the executive branch from having any of this power to arbitrarily change things on a whim. That is the only way international peer could in the future trust an agreement made with the USA.

As long as the US feels it is ok to sign an agreement and immediately violate it, nobody in their right mind will bother to negotiate any future agreements. Which is not a good state to be in.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

#33

People here in Canada have not been sitting still. It is a truely fantastic oportunity, it's almost like 10% of the US market was suddenly transported to another country for free, and all we have to do is fill it.

Prepare the distilleries ...

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

#34
You cannot negotiate with a country that doesn’t stand by its word.

All other issues aside, Trump and the Republicans love to boast that they aren’t bound by anything including their own promises. This is the end result of that.

You’d be mad to cut a deal with the US right now. The Trump Admin will just try to take another bite. They are dishonest and unreliable. Making America’s word mean nothing is the greatest long term damage done to the country and the surest indicator of the end of the American Century (80 years but we can round up)

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very good yesterday, very bad today. I understand completely why nations are not eager to bargain with a petulant child

The problem is more long lasting. The world cannot accommodate 180 degree turns every 4 years in Washington. So anybody that will follow, regardless of the person's policies won't matter fully, as that person itself will be replaced 4-8 years later.

But we’re talking 180 degrees every… 2 weeks?

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

#36

You cannot negotiate with a country that doesn’t stand by its word. All other issues aside, Trump and the Republicans love to boast that they aren’t bound by anything including their own promises. This is the end result of that. You’d be mad to cut a deal with the US right now. The Trump Admin will just try to take another bite. They are dishonest and unreliable. Making America’s word mean nothing is the greatest lon…

It has to do with how America politically structured. The trade nego change every 1-2 terms. China is much more consistent in this, and will scrap all markets from America in the long term. I simply dont see America able to force a Plaza Accord out of this. Japan fizzled because of that. But China wont. And China now backed by Russia, world powerhouse of fossil and minerals. Russia has way more natural reserve than what Venezuela America and Middle East officially published.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

#37

Art of the deal strikes again.

This administration has a thing for being really vicious with the closest allies. It really feels strange, odd, yet unsurprising that the US is going from a globalist leadership to selfish nationalism.

Its easier since they have no defenses up and lots of valuables are in reach. It makes sense if you are that ethically challenged.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

#38
Importantly Canada has committed to matching every American tariff dollar for dollar, which the US already considers unfathomable. Greer repeatedly cites that only Canada and China retaliated, which is such a weird criticism. Is he intending to compliment us?

So expect Trump to start spiralling. Also expect lots of astroturfing about how desperate Canada is and that it has no choice (one of those hilarious slop purveyors appeared below).

Canada should begin the process of withdrawing from USMCA, and the truth is that NAFTA cum USMCA has worsened Canada's lot over the past four decades compared to peers. Trade agreements with the US are worthless, and even negotiating with that Epstein pedo cabal of grifters is useless. It sounds like the Canadian team were foolishly going to give in to many things (any concession of any form always comes back to hurt you), but at the last minute Howard "Epstein Island" Nutlick swooped in and tried to extract even more, undoing it all. Which...thank you Nutlick, you disgusting greaseball. You did us a great favour.

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