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Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Art of the deal strikes again.

This administration has a thing for being really vicious with the closest allies. It really feels strange, odd, yet unsurprising that the US is going from a globalist leadership to selfish nationalism.

Trump projects his greed and selfishness onto everyone else. So doesn't understand that there can be such a thing as a win-win relationship.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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There's a good opportunity to use that tariff money and subsidize critical exports to everywhere but USA. Europe gets cheaper minerals and Trump gets left begging China for scraps at insane prices.

If you want political gestures then impose heavy sanctions on Israel and declare that Latinos can get refugee status in Canada because of ICE. That would be an economic win too.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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It's difficult to imagine lower quality comments. If you asked an AI to generate the lowest quality, most content-free comment thread possible I doubt it could rival the quality of comments on that website.

To be fair, it doesn't seem like the post here is attracting high quality and thoughtful comments either.

YC has an obnoxious habit of putting itself above other social networks when in reality its just a haven for spoiled little boys who were constantly told how smart they are and grew up into entitled assholes who think they are better than everyone because they can write some code.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This administration has a thing for being really vicious with the closest allies. It really feels strange, odd, yet unsurprising that the US is going from a globalist leadership to selfish nationalism.

Trump projects his greed and selfishness onto everyone else. So doesn't understand that there can be such a thing as a win-win relationship.

I think you are ignoring the situation of a WIN-win relationship where one party is winning much more at the other party's expense. Just because it may be net positive for both countries that doesn't mean that it's a fair arrangement. The excuse that the smaller winner is still technically winning is not a good excuse against pushing for a more fair deal.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's difficult to imagine lower quality comments. If you asked an AI to generate the lowest quality, most content-free comment thread possible I doubt it could rival the quality of comments on that website.

To be fair, it doesn't seem like the post here is attracting high quality and thoughtful comments either.

> ... attracting high quality and thoughtful comments either.

Sadly, U.S. politics doesn't attract high-quality thought in general (especially in more recent years), so any discussion surrounding our little three-ring circus cult here isn't likely to be much better than the subject matter bein' discussed. It's all just too crazy to base any sane discussion around.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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It is a good thing canadians are so nice. Dropping US alcohol is a tiny thing compared to some of the weapons canada might deploy. Look at all the back-and-forth deals in recent years and you will see an exemption for oil and potash. Think gas prices are high now? See what happens if canada starts shipping less crude. Think food prices are high? See what happens when there is no fertilizer because canada has restrict…

The sentiment here is that nobody wants U.S. citizens to be negatively impacted by trade restrictions or tariffs. We are figuratively and, in many cases, literally friends and family. (Aside, even if our provincial governments allow southern booze back on shelves, it'll stay there.) It would be decidedly un-Canadian to leverage electricity, potash, or other commodities necessary for survival in trade negotiations --…

You do realise it's the citizens that voted trump in?

And you don't have to ban them, just make them more expensive. Your US brethren did vote for tarriffs. With that comes higher prices.

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Very good yesterday, very bad today. I understand completely why nations are not eager to bargain with a petulant child

"That's like a toddler with a harpoon. There's a toddler wandering around in that office with a harpoon." The Thick of It s4e2.

"He's so dense that light bends around him"

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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There's a good opportunity to use that tariff money and subsidize critical exports to everywhere but USA. Europe gets cheaper minerals and Trump gets left begging China for scraps at insane prices. If you want political gestures then impose heavy sanctions on Israel and declare that Latinos can get refugee status in Canada because of ICE. That would be an economic win too.

But the Canadian government wants to be the 51st state. They have rapidly defunded social services, expanded fossil fuels and will adopt US style militarization. In fact, purchasing those munitions from the only country that has threatened to take it over.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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It is a good thing canadians are so nice. Dropping US alcohol is a tiny thing compared to some of the weapons canada might deploy. Look at all the back-and-forth deals in recent years and you will see an exemption for oil and potash. Think gas prices are high now? See what happens if canada starts shipping less crude. Think food prices are high? See what happens when there is no fertilizer because canada has restrict…

The sentiment here is that nobody wants U.S. citizens to be negatively impacted by trade restrictions or tariffs. We are figuratively and, in many cases, literally friends and family. (Aside, even if our provincial governments allow southern booze back on shelves, it'll stay there.) It would be decidedly un-Canadian to leverage electricity, potash, or other commodities necessary for survival in trade negotiations --…

I want them to be negatively impacted. Maybe a couple family members spoke publicly about what’s happening, and the rest remain silent or indifferent. My cousins are too busy with their multi million dollar AI roles to even see us non-millionaires as human.
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