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Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Art of the deal strikes again.

This administration has a thing for being really vicious with the closest allies. It really feels strange, odd, yet unsurprising that the US is going from a globalist leadership to selfish nationalism.

The US doesn’t have allies; it has interests.

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Art of the deal strikes again.

This administration has a thing for being really vicious with the closest allies. It really feels strange, odd, yet unsurprising that the US is going from a globalist leadership to selfish nationalism.

> the US is going from a globalist leadership to selfish nationalism.

It’s worse than that. This doesn’t suit the US. It suits Trump (or at least, that’s what his addled mind thinks).

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Very good yesterday, very bad today. I understand completely why nations are not eager to bargain with a petulant child

The problem is more long lasting. The world cannot accommodate 180 degree turns every 4 years in Washington. So anybody that will follow, regardless of the person's policies won't matter fully, as that person itself will be replaced 4-8 years later.

At least the timing of the turns is predictable... I imagine working with countries with snap elections is harder, especially when they have trouble forming a government.

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It is a good thing canadians are so nice. Dropping US alcohol is a tiny thing compared to some of the weapons canada might deploy. Look at all the back-and-forth deals in recent years and you will see an exemption for oil and potash. Think gas prices are high now? See what happens if canada starts shipping less crude. Think food prices are high? See what happens when there is no fertilizer because canada has restrict…

It's a slow moving train wreck. I hope the consequences of these petulant actions scar the minds of voters for years to come. We're seeing the yield on treasuries creeping up, I think that's one of the consequences.

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Art of the deal strikes again.

Very good yesterday, very bad today. I understand completely why nations are not eager to bargain with a petulant child

"That's like a toddler with a harpoon. There's a toddler wandering around in that office with a harpoon." The Thick of It s4e2.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very good yesterday, very bad today. I understand completely why nations are not eager to bargain with a petulant child

The problem is more long lasting. The world cannot accommodate 180 degree turns every 4 years in Washington. So anybody that will follow, regardless of the person's policies won't matter fully, as that person itself will be replaced 4-8 years later.

> So anybody that will follow, regardless of the person's policies won't matter fully, as that person itself will be replaced 4-8 years later.

There is only one chance the US has - they need to do what us Germans were forced to post-1945, rearchitect everything.

The US and UK are the only major countries that didn't undergo some sort of revolution, war or other reset of their constitution and legal systems and it shows everywhere.

If we Europeans (or anyone else) are supposed to ever trust the US again, we demand they properly fix their shit and prevent another madman's rise for good.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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It is a good thing canadians are so nice. Dropping US alcohol is a tiny thing compared to some of the weapons canada might deploy. Look at all the back-and-forth deals in recent years and you will see an exemption for oil and potash. Think gas prices are high now? See what happens if canada starts shipping less crude. Think food prices are high? See what happens when there is no fertilizer because canada has restrict…

The sentiment here is that nobody wants U.S. citizens to be negatively impacted by trade restrictions or tariffs. We are figuratively and, in many cases, literally friends and family. (Aside, even if our provincial governments allow southern booze back on shelves, it'll stay there.)

It would be decidedly un-Canadian to leverage electricity, potash, or other commodities necessary for survival in trade negotiations -- despite what Ford may suggest. We're nice, but we won't bow to bullies. Elbows up, eh!

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