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Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction

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Post by gatio »

bluegatty wrote: post #43
returnInfinity wrote: post #29

This is a play to grab market share from Claude, But it seems Claude code is too strong of a brand Until the IT managers and CFOs cut budget hard, Claude will live rent free in heads of all developers OpenAI should attack the CIO and CFOs stat At my company we have unlimited codex and claude, still people stick to gimped claude code

I switch every 6-10 weeks, because there seems to be a material change in model quality. I can understand the fatigue - but as of today, for most thing I would say Sol is better. If the opened up the 1M context in Codex, it would be unrivalled. Enterprise may have a bit more difficulty context switching. Pun intended.

I believe the 1M context window can be configured in Codex (config file edit). The price per token increases when >256k though, but it can be useful when compaction at-that-moment would be detrimental.

Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

nsoonhui wrote: post #49
gr_norm wrote: post #22

Even if you don't want to use open models, you should cheer for them anyway because it puts the American frontier labs' feet to the flames. This competition is awesome for us consumers.

I did try to use Chinese open models, but for my production work they simply couldn't cope at all; both GLM 5.3 and Deepseek v4 went into infinite loop and wasted my tokens until my OpenRouter wallet reached 0; good thing I didn't enable the auto topup. US models, by contrast, breezed past them. Even for simpler tasks, Chinese models took long time to complete, and I needed to supervise closely. The price , in the en…

I’ve been using deepseek and it works great for my problems. An expensive day is when I spend $7 in tokens, and that takes lots of queries. Openrouter doesn’t give you the cache discount I think, which is really important.

Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction

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Post by irthomasthomas »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #52
nsoonhui wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did try to use Chinese open models, but for my production work they simply couldn't cope at all; both GLM 5.3 and Deepseek v4 went into infinite loop and wasted my tokens until my OpenRouter wallet reached 0; good thing I didn't enable the auto topup. US models, by contrast, breezed past them. Even for simpler tasks, Chinese models took long time to complete, and I needed to supervise closely. The price , in the en…

I’ve been using deepseek and it works great for my problems. An expensive day is when I spend $7 in tokens, and that takes lots of queries. Openrouter doesn’t give you the cache discount I think, which is really important.

Why on earth would you use openrouter for this? The cache discount for deepseek is the highest by far, it is the cache that makes the official API so cheap, even after the recent price rise.

Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction

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Post by atmonostorm »

teruakohatu wrote: post #30
johnnyApplePRNG wrote: post #17

discounting your most valuable model 20% today without a better model in the wing ... pushing your API subscriber base towards a competitor with an exclusive 50%, openrouter, the other day ... slashing paying codex subscriber usage limits to the point that many are cancelling long term contracts they've had with the company ... is altman playing 4d chess or something I'm not aware of? because from the outside, each o…

> without a better model in the wing ... How do you know they don’t? > is altman playing 4d chess or something I'm not aware of? Anthropic just removed a discount on Fable, while people are simultaneously getting sick of reading fable and opus talking about “the load bearing texture” and “color of the blanket”. It’s become excruciatingly painful to read the output during coding sessions. Maybe it’s just good marketin…

Just wait until you see 5.6 Sol sneaking in “evidence”, “provenance”, and “gate” everywhere.

Every model has its own tells, just a matter of which ones you recognize the most prior to losing your sanity

Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction

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Post by gatio »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #47
returnInfinity wrote: post #29

This is a play to grab market share from Claude, But it seems Claude code is too strong of a brand Until the IT managers and CFOs cut budget hard, Claude will live rent free in heads of all developers OpenAI should attack the CIO and CFOs stat At my company we have unlimited codex and claude, still people stick to gimped claude code

If developers are choosing Claude when given unlimited access to both, then any executive who tries to force them to Codex is really stupid.

"when given unlimited access to both" is carrying a lot there.

One may as well say "given unlimited budget".

Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction

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Post by szundi »

returnInfinity wrote: post #29

This is a play to grab market share from Claude, But it seems Claude code is too strong of a brand Until the IT managers and CFOs cut budget hard, Claude will live rent free in heads of all developers OpenAI should attack the CIO and CFOs stat At my company we have unlimited codex and claude, still people stick to gimped claude code

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Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction

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Post by szundi »

atmonostorm wrote: post #54
teruakohatu wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> without a better model in the wing ... How do you know they don’t? > is altman playing 4d chess or something I'm not aware of? Anthropic just removed a discount on Fable, while people are simultaneously getting sick of reading fable and opus talking about “the load bearing texture” and “color of the blanket”. It’s become excruciatingly painful to read the output during coding sessions. Maybe it’s just good marketin…

Just wait until you see 5.6 Sol sneaking in “evidence”, “provenance”, and “gate” everywhere. Every model has its own tells, just a matter of which ones you recognize the most prior to losing your sanity

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Re: GPT 5.6 Sol 20% price reduction

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Post by nsoonhui »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #52
nsoonhui wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did try to use Chinese open models, but for my production work they simply couldn't cope at all; both GLM 5.3 and Deepseek v4 went into infinite loop and wasted my tokens until my OpenRouter wallet reached 0; good thing I didn't enable the auto topup. US models, by contrast, breezed past them. Even for simpler tasks, Chinese models took long time to complete, and I needed to supervise closely. The price , in the en…

I’ve been using deepseek and it works great for my problems. An expensive day is when I spend $7 in tokens, and that takes lots of queries. Openrouter doesn’t give you the cache discount I think, which is really important.

That's strange. For Deepseek I burnt through USD 5 on a relatively simple task, in one afternoon. That the simple task took a whole afternoon, a lot of baby sitting, the slowness, and so much money relatively, really shook me to the core.
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