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Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by itsprofitbaron »

Instagram's new TOS[1] state:

  To help us deliver interesting paid or sponsored content or promotions, you agree that a business or other entity may pay us to display your username, likeness, photos (along with any associated metadata), and/or actions you take, in connection with paid or sponsored content or promotions, without any compensation to you.
In other words, they're trying to monetize Instagram a similar way Facebook is - Sponsored Posts - your photos and associated data can be promoted by companies without having to notify you about it.

Furthermore under Section 106: Exclusive rights in copyrighted works aka. 17 U.S.C. § 106[2] Instagram cannot sell your photos and it cannot use your photos and alter them in any meaningful way.

Having said that Instagram could have communicated this better as this hasn't helped the situation either.

[1] http://instagram.com/about/legal/terms/updated/

[2] http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html

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NOTE: Also posted this at: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4939650

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by xauronx »

webwright wrote: post #68
imgabe wrote: post #50

For those of you who don't think this is a big deal. Instagram is explicitly stating that they're going to sell the use of your pictures to third parties. They're also going to start showing ads in their news stream. I know the pictures are of too low quality to be plastered on a billboard. That's not the point. What I expect they want to happen is something like this: I post a picture of me drinking a Coke to Instag…

There are tons of stock photography models who live with this risk for a bit of compensation. So they make (say) $100 to be in a photo and have a 0.01% chance of being in an ad they find objectionable. I get a free/fun app instead of $100. Instead of a .01% chance, I have a .00000001% of appearing in an objectionable ad (my photos just aren't as good as pros, and I'm just not that pretty). Add to that-- if this happe…

I kind of agree with you here. Perhaps it's just my natural aversion to mass hysteria, but I think that allowing them to use the photos they provided you with an app, bandwidth, servers, and a web application to create is pretty reasonable. Now, I assume that everyone (including Instagram) is aware that using them in any harming way to the original author can only ruin their business. Sure, perhaps legally they COULD use that picture of me sipping on my latte to advertise extra large dildos, but I'm going to assume that they're aware that would be a poor choice. However, if they want to use the picture of my feet in the sand as stock photography somewhere, go for it. I'd be flattered. I would happily count the $10 I would have made on a stock photo website an appropriate fee to access to their service.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by CraigRood »

nmcfarl wrote: post #29
avree wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the resolution shift happens client side, before the photo is transmitted to their servers. They couldn't have the full res version stored elsewhere. That's how we know.

How do we know the resolution shift happens client side? I did a quick google and found nothing.

It also uploads before you confirm your posting to make the process faster.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by ceejayoz »

mseebach wrote: post #22
sp332 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does deleting your account actually remove your photos? I've seen some people claim that you can still load the images if you know the URL. Not sure if it's just a CDN that hasn't expired the content yet or if Instagram really keeps your photos after you "delete" them.

Deleting your account certainly implies that you don't accept the new TOS.

Ah, but the TOS states using the site means you accept it. You have to use the site to delete your account.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by courtneypowell »

imgabe wrote: post #50

For those of you who don't think this is a big deal. Instagram is explicitly stating that they're going to sell the use of your pictures to third parties. They're also going to start showing ads in their news stream. I know the pictures are of too low quality to be plastered on a billboard. That's not the point. What I expect they want to happen is something like this: I post a picture of me drinking a Coke to Instag…

We started a complaint to ask Instagram to reconsider. http://www.publikdemand.com/s/dXpDf7/

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by Tuna-Fish »

webwright wrote: post #88
jellicle wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Add to that-- if this happens, I certainly won't be the first one it happens to and will almost certainly have an opportunity to delete my account when I start hearing about this happening in the wild. Even if I don't delete it, the chance of my crappy photos getting found/used out of the MANY BILLIONS on instagram also seems laughably small. You don't understand the situation. When you delete your account, it won'…

"You don't understand the situation." I sure do. My point was-- the first time this happens, there will be an outcry that makes this one seem small. At that point, I can delete my account. Maybe the poor sucker who was the first victim can't, but I can. MAYBE Instagram at this point is so malevolent that they give me the finger and retain my photos, but that seems kinda unlikely. Edit: And I couldn't give a single da…

The contract explicitly specifies that they can, and will, retain all your photos if you don't delete your account by the deadline. After that, they have a permanent license to do whatever they want with your photos.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by hkmurakami »

grinich wrote: post #82
hkmurakami wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd be even more effective (read: messed up) if they take your coke-drinking-photo and show this in your own friends' feeds as an advertisement, with the kind of caption you mentioned. I experienced the effectiveness of seeing a friend's face on an ad first hand a few years ago, when a friend of mine put up a job-posting ad on facebook with his face on it. My engagement with that ad was ridiculously high and it lead…

Why is it "messed up" if it makes advertising more engaging? Facebook essentially does what you describe, by showing your friends the posts/ads of pages you have liked. I think it's just a spectrum where ads can become a service. What if Netflix could show me movies that friends have recently watched? Or TV ads rendered client-side to have personal details (adapting to the demographics)? What if I was emailed early a…

But this isn't even "your data" that's being used. It's "you" whose likeliness is being leveraged to attain higher ad engagement.

While the use of our data for advertisement is covert in nature, the possible scenario I suggest where "we" ourselves become the advertisement seems very overt to me. I agree that this is similar to facebook likes and shares. However, facebook likes are voluntary actions by me. That is very different from my personal photos (which are even stronger impressions that likes or shares) being used in their original form as advertisements without my knowledge or consent (well I guess I do consent to it if I use the service under the new TOS).

Maybe this will be accepted by society in the coming years, but right here and now, it evokes an eerie "evil-mustache universe" type reaction in me, where my "normal universe personal photos" become mirrored as "evil-mustache universe advertisement photos".

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by tlrobinson »

dfxm12 wrote: post #36
siglesias wrote: post #23

Can somebody explain to me what the big deal is about Instagram and these new terms of service? I can't fathom that anything but 1% of 1% of photos taken there are good enough to be used commercially, and if folks are so afraid that their pictures of Starbucks lattes will be used in some kind of marketing campaign (in which case they should actually be flattered), what exactly is stopping users from removing location…

The big deal is that someone is profiting from my work without my consent and it isn't me . It's that we (the people) get slammed by DMCA violations for taking someone else's content (for private consumption). When a huge corporation takes ours (and gets paid for it), what recourse do we have? It's that these corporations can change the rules on us in the middle of the game. It's the classic bait and switch. It's tha…

"someone is profiting from my work without my consent and it isn't me"

That's the price you pay for using a "free" service.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by moheeb »

blake8086 wrote: post #57
dfxm12 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The big deal is that someone is profiting from my work without my consent and it isn't me . It's that we (the people) get slammed by DMCA violations for taking someone else's content (for private consumption). When a huge corporation takes ours (and gets paid for it), what recourse do we have? It's that these corporations can change the rules on us in the middle of the game. It's the classic bait and switch. It's tha…

Didn't they profit from your work before this?

Seems like most of them are not smart enough to realize this.
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