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A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by mycall »

smusamashah wrote: post #29
Kovah wrote: post #25

> It felt to me that Codex created a much simpler solution in terms of code architecture than Claude. Wow, I made exactly the opposite experience. Codex loves to make things as complicated as possible, even ignoring instructions and predefined skills. Claude behaves way more pragmatic. Maybe depends on the type of work one does, or even which programming languages/frameworks are used?

I have the same experience. I have passed Codex's code over to Claude (Sonnet mostly) to simplify it and it did a so much better job. Codex couldn't comprehend a simpler solution no matter what.

This is a good idea. I'm making a complicated app and Codex is stuck at simplifying it, so I'll give Claude a go at it.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by natedagreat22 »

kromokromo wrote: post #57
mewse-hn wrote: post #13

I only have the $20 claude subscription. Last weekend I was doing a fairly heavy task (porting quake to raspberry pi native GLES 1.0) and ran out of claude usage twice, then hooked in with Luna in OpenCode and finished everything off for like $0.40 in tokens, which was impressive. With Opus 5.0 being kinda crappy vs 4.8, I think Anthropic is in trouble.

Model performance is very much subjective to what you’re using it for. I’m a PM and doing mostly knowledge work, and I’ve been really happy with Opus 5 as my daily driver with very good results, perhaps my favorite anthropic model so far. I do a lot of front-end coding with it too. I prefer it over the openAI models, been switching frequently. Kimi K3 is great too.

Opus 5 is trash imo. 4.8 was better. 5 is overly verbose and complicates solutions. I switched to sol for my coding since and have been pretty happy

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by [deleted] »

roamerz wrote: post #77
ibramGaunt wrote: post #43

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My token usage on Claude models has dropped by 83% over the last month - I'm pretty much only using it for quick one off questions or reading papers. it feels impossible for me to get Opus models to stop entering into cyclic loops, and my work is too security adjacent for Fable. Codex has been an excellent workhorse - doesn't feel like I have to dance around the guardrails, doesn't lose _everything_ when it compacts,…

I have to agree with you there. I did some good work with Claude then Fable came out - impressed with that as well. Then they dropped access to it and upon returning was never the same - even the Opus models for some reason. Then one day I burned through my limit in about 10 minutes and had to get a project completed. I subscribed to Codex and it has been fantastic - finished my project and continued on to others. I…

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Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by esalman »

antihipocrat wrote: post #80
felixgallo wrote: post #64

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By this logic everyone should have their own impact website. The suggestion that everyone right now not giving a meaningful percentage of their income to save a life is responsible for ending that life, is ridiculous.

Not everyone should have an impact website because not everyone is capable of causing 88 deaths per hour. Scale matters.

Take Flock for example. Reading license plate is legal. But when at done at scale, it's a massive loophole into violation of 4th amendment.

Based on how much energy average Americans use, maybe they are responsible for causing adverse effects elsewhere in the world. USAID could exist as a means to undo some of that. It does not anymore.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by esalman »

kev009 wrote: post #79
felixgallo wrote: post #64

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Let me give you an example of the money laundering operation. Due to USAID shutdown, Bangladesh went from ~$500M in US assistance to ~$71M, with bilateral health funding dropping ~97% in some analyses. Over 100 projects (~$550M) suspended overnight. 20k–50k development workers laid off (1,000+ at icddr,b, an award winning health research institution alone). TB programs (major USAID focus) largely halted. Bangladesh is high-burden; prior gains in case detection and falling death rates are at risk of reversing, plus higher chance of drug resistance from incomplete treatment. Immunization, maternal/child health, community clinics, nutrition, water/sanitation, and gender-based violence services sharply reduced. Child protection funding down ~36%. Food rations in Rohinhya camp, the largest refugee camp in the world, halved for >1M people; health and education services cut.

Now you can argue that US does not have any kind of obligation to send 500M to Bangladesh. But it sent it anyway, for years, and then DJT came and broke promises.

The inflated price you pay at gas station, groceries, and in interest when you're borrowing money, is a result of those broken promises.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by Auracle »

esalman wrote: post #95
kev009 wrote: post #79

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Let me give you an example of the money laundering operation. Due to USAID shutdown, Bangladesh went from ~$500M in US assistance to ~$71M, with bilateral health funding dropping ~97% in some analyses. Over 100 projects (~$550M) suspended overnight. 20k–50k development workers laid off (1,000+ at icddr,b, an award winning health research institution alone). TB programs (major USAID focus) largely halted. Bangladesh i…

I’m sorry, but if I’m giving someone who is - at best - an acquaintance of mine $50 a month out of the goodness of my heart and then one day decide to stop, that’s not a broken promise. If that acquaintance got angry at me about stopping I’d get pretty upset back.

I really don’t understand what link you think there is between USAID spending being cut and inflation. Gas prices are obviously Iran. Everything else started years ago.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by esalman »

Auracle wrote: post #96
esalman wrote: post #95

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Let me give you an example of the money laundering operation. Due to USAID shutdown, Bangladesh went from ~$500M in US assistance to ~$71M, with bilateral health funding dropping ~97% in some analyses. Over 100 projects (~$550M) suspended overnight. 20k–50k development workers laid off (1,000+ at icddr,b, an award winning health research institution alone). TB programs (major USAID focus) largely halted. Bangladesh i…

I’m sorry, but if I’m giving someone who is - at best - an acquaintance of mine $50 a month out of the goodness of my heart and then one day decide to stop, that’s not a broken promise. If that acquaintance got angry at me about stopping I’d get pretty upset back. I really don’t understand what link you think there is between USAID spending being cut and inflation. Gas prices are obviously Iran. Everything else start…

Inflation is high because interest rates are high. Interest rates are high because top holders of US Treasury bonds like Japan, UK, China, are all dumping bonds. Why do you think they're doing that?

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by kev009 »

esalman wrote: post #95
kev009 wrote: post #79

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Let me give you an example of the money laundering operation. Due to USAID shutdown, Bangladesh went from ~$500M in US assistance to ~$71M, with bilateral health funding dropping ~97% in some analyses. Over 100 projects (~$550M) suspended overnight. 20k–50k development workers laid off (1,000+ at icddr,b, an award winning health research institution alone). TB programs (major USAID focus) largely halted. Bangladesh i…

Expecting an onslaught of cash as some permanent way of being, especially given the fickleness (and fragility) of any state let alone political regime is an incredibly daft move. I don't care if it's Europe or Israel or Bangladesh, all this is ultimately graft that comes back to bite the people taxed and sent to wars to enable it. You make an adjacent comment that insinuates the US economy is basically bunk, which means the free lunch is over anyway.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by jmaker »

217 wrote: post #10

while everyone is somehow still stuck on and fascinated by claude, heres your quick update on the sota of coding models and harnesses mid august 2026 codex is good, both cli and desktop app, you get lots of usage on any plan. sol is good! and gets the job done, write or dictate a very long and thoughtful prompt, and leave sol xhigh or max fast working on it for an hour or so omp is an amazing harness, any feature cla…

I don’t get how Claude is considered providing “unlimited” quotas. I use up my 5h on Max $100 and Team Premium in 2-3h of relaxed use of Opus 5 high+ on fresh sessions with just a couple skills/plugins. And my weekly quotas are gone in 3 days of such relaxed use. With Codex my $100 weekly quota is used up within 3 days with Sol high+ too.

Im not convinced to pay $200 for Claude’s models.

With Claude, I have to intervene every 15-20 minutes, it’s non-autonomous and it’s incredibly unreliable at self-correction. GPT is strong at self-correction but it tends to drift away from the plan to self-correct in a loop very often - a lot of tokens and time burnt on aimless churn. Opus tends to push its uninformed opinions and fake retrieval, drifting every turn increasingly farther from the intended and approved design. Opus skims over specs and makes too many mistakes.

As for closed frontier models, I prefer the GPT models over Claude’s.

I’ve started relying more on Grok, GLM, Kimi and DeepSeek models for subagents - I’ve ended up with a factory and am seeking to reduce my reliance on the closed frontier models - they’re just not SoTA on their own for development anymore.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by rplnt »

skeledrew wrote: post #87
rplnt wrote: post #15

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> why something is there way it is It writes out stories describing what isn't there or what used to be there. It's usually not helpful, just noise. It also likes to write it in very verbose AI-styled prose.

It's likely not helpful to you, but it is to Claude. Basically a memory entry at the exact point of relevance, with the same caveats. One advantage though is it survives cloning, so another using the project benefits.

It's only helpful to Claude in that it wastes more tokens and costs more.
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