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Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Can somebody explain to me what the big deal is about Instagram and these new terms of service? I can't fathom that anything but 1% of 1% of photos taken there are good enough to be used commercially, and if folks are so afraid that their pictures of Starbucks lattes will be used in some kind of marketing campaign (in which case they should actually be flattered), what exactly is stopping users from removing location…

Flickr and Google (among others) don't claim the kind of license that Instagram demands in the new ToS. So this is only a big deal in that there are some alternatives that don't suck and are really easy to switch to.

If they want to put content users in touch with content providers, they can do what Flickr did: make a way for them to do so. There are a ton of ways to monetize that, too, without dialing it up all the way to "we own your content". I bet most users would love a request system that lets businesses use their photos free of charge with attribution if they click "yes".

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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My god, people, calm down. This isn't instagram trying to use your photos as stock photos.

First: they're not good enough. They're snapshots taken with camera phones, they're not marketing materials.

Second: that would piss off their users, and no sane company would ever do this. The thing you're seeing in their ToS is an interpretation that allows for this.

Expect a statement from instagram confirming that they will change their ToS to explicitly disallow this sometime today.

In the meantime: calm down, go outside for a walk.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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post #32

Can somebody explain to me what the big deal is about Instagram and these new terms of service? I can't fathom that anything but 1% of 1% of photos taken there are good enough to be used commercially, and if folks are so afraid that their pictures of Starbucks lattes will be used in some kind of marketing campaign (in which case they should actually be flattered), what exactly is stopping users from removing location…

Flickr and Google (among others) don't claim the kind of license that Instagram demands in the new ToS. So this is only a big deal in that there are some alternatives that don't suck and are really easy to switch to. If they want to put content users in touch with content providers, they can do what Flickr did: make a way for them to do so. There are a ton of ways to monetize that, too, without dialing it up all the…

You sure you actually read the ToS?

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4939159

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

#35

Can somebody explain to me what the big deal is about Instagram and these new terms of service? I can't fathom that anything but 1% of 1% of photos taken there are good enough to be used commercially, and if folks are so afraid that their pictures of Starbucks lattes will be used in some kind of marketing campaign (in which case they should actually be flattered), what exactly is stopping users from removing location…

Can somebody explain to me what the big deal is about Instagram and these new terms of service? I can't fathom that anything but 1% of 1% of photos taken there are good enough to be used commercially [...]

Let's look at your claim that around "1% of 1%", or one in ten thousand, of Instagram photos are of commercial quality. With 5 million+ photos uploaded per day [1], that's 500 photos a day.

It seems to me that the new ToS made some people want to leave the service, because that's not what they signed up for. You obviously made another choice.

[1] http://allthingsd.com/20120403/instagram-by-the-numbers-1-bi...

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

#36

Can somebody explain to me what the big deal is about Instagram and these new terms of service? I can't fathom that anything but 1% of 1% of photos taken there are good enough to be used commercially, and if folks are so afraid that their pictures of Starbucks lattes will be used in some kind of marketing campaign (in which case they should actually be flattered), what exactly is stopping users from removing location…

The big deal is that someone is profiting from my work without my consent and it isn't me.

It's that we (the people) get slammed by DMCA violations for taking someone else's content (for private consumption). When a huge corporation takes ours (and gets paid for it), what recourse do we have?

It's that these corporations can change the rules on us in the middle of the game. It's the classic bait and switch.

It's that we're not even getting asked or given credit.

The Instagram developer page (http://instagram.com/developer) says users own their images. They expect third party developers to respect that. Why won't they?

Who fights for the user?

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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post #28

Can somebody explain to me what the big deal is about Instagram and these new terms of service? I can't fathom that anything but 1% of 1% of photos taken there are good enough to be used commercially, and if folks are so afraid that their pictures of Starbucks lattes will be used in some kind of marketing campaign (in which case they should actually be flattered), what exactly is stopping users from removing location…

Human-produced carbon output is only like 1% of 1% of the atmosphere. No big deal right? Murderers are only like 1% of 1% of people. No big deal right? ...

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Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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post #32

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Flickr and Google (among others) don't claim the kind of license that Instagram demands in the new ToS. So this is only a big deal in that there are some alternatives that don't suck and are really easy to switch to. If they want to put content users in touch with content providers, they can do what Flickr did: make a way for them to do so. There are a ton of ways to monetize that, too, without dialing it up all the…

You sure you actually read the ToS? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4939159

Of course not. No-one did. Nothing like a good ole' pitchfork mob.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Can somebody explain to me what the big deal is about Instagram and these new terms of service? I can't fathom that anything but 1% of 1% of photos taken there are good enough to be used commercially, and if folks are so afraid that their pictures of Starbucks lattes will be used in some kind of marketing campaign (in which case they should actually be flattered), what exactly is stopping users from removing location…

Its like the radio saying "we'll play your song, but we get the copyright and get to sell the CD/iTunes etc". Oh, and we're not gonna pay you ever.

Sound good?

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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post #33

My god, people, calm down. This isn't instagram trying to use your photos as stock photos. First: they're not good enough. They're snapshots taken with camera phones, they're not marketing materials. Second: that would piss off their users, and no sane company would ever do this. The thing you're seeing in their ToS is an interpretation that allows for this. Expect a statement from instagram confirming that they will…

>The thing you're seeing in their ToS is an interpretation that allows for this.

Then maybe companies shouldn't amend their ToS to "allow" for things that are so utterly odious. None of the other companies that matter do this, so the claim that this is standard boilerplate is bunkola.

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